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Really? I have yet to meet someone that plays that game. I always thought their LotR line was a massive flop and they only stick with it because of legal agreements.
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Lotr is the 'in' for the general public. If you've never heard of GW, you're still likely to have heard of LotR or the Hobbit, and having a game based on those brings new players in who would never have otherwise started.

When GW put their figures on the De Agnosti LotR collectable magazine, it brought in so many new players it was just silly.

Just because the regular GW crowd don't play it, don't assume it's not done wonders for GW as a whole. It funded the new 3 storey office block and Eurohub at Lenton, and the new plastics machines. LotR is the reason they can do the awesome plastic kits you're enjoying right now.

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Lotr is the 'in' for the general public. If you've never heard of GW, you're still likely to have heard of LotR or the Hobbit, and having a game based on those brings new players in who would never have otherwise started.

When GW put their figures on the De Agnosti LotR collectable magazine, it brought in so many new players it was just silly.
Really? I didn't know. Like I said, I have never seen anyone playing them, and have hardly seen them at gaming stores. I had at best seen a few models and scenarios at some cons but that's about it.

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LotR is the reason they can do the awesome plastic kits you're enjoying right now.
If I had awesome new plastic kits I wouldn't have quit buying GW stuff.

This said, thanks for the heads up, I seriously thought the LotR line was just a failure.
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The Hobbit is why GW has smaller tooling to make more detailed models and faces if they WD last December is to be believed too.
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Really? I have yet to meet someone that plays that game. I always thought their LotR line was a massive flop and they only stick with it because of legal agreements.
as silvertabby said this is a myth or huge misconception, GW had the opportunity to walk away from lord of the rings when the license expired prior to the hobbit release but took the option to extend it and include the Hobbit, hardly the actions of a company whos line had flopped.
i cant say if the tooling had anything to do with the hobbit needing smaller tooling, but certainly GWs plastics have taken a huge leap forward during the period that they have been producing LOTR models, so if its out of necessity or just because they had the cash to invest in new tech im certainly glad they went after the licence, if anyone at GW has any sense they should be looking at the new Star Wars movies as the next potential movie tie in.



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if anyone at GW has any sense they should be looking at the new Star Wars movies as the next potential movie tie in.
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am i the only one that would rather they bring back specialist games as opposed to starting a whole new system? maybe bridge the gap between gothic and 40k with a campaign book? Just saying.

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If anyone at GW has any sense they should be looking at the new Star Wars movies as the next potential movie tie in.
Probably a non starter since Fantasy Flight has the Star Wars tabletop game license for at least the new few years (I'm not sure they've ever said in public how long a period it covers). The bidding process for it was before the new movies were announced, and I do wonder if it would have turned out differently if the license renewal had come a bit later.

(I have liked what FFG have done with the license so far, both with X-Wing and the RPG and hope they keep going with what they've done, but they'd be crazy not to have something big and new lined up with it for when the new films start hitting)
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i think the "mature" game might be a skirmish game since older players have probably less time to play with full time jobs, wife, kids and such.

LOTR is pretty big which I did not think it was until my local store hosted a LOTR tournament and the place packed with people so it is very popular and good for GW.

I agree with B&K that GW should get in with the new Star Wars movies especially since X-wing fighter is a pretty popular game system this might give GW many more new customers.


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am i the only one that would rather they bring back specialist games as opposed to starting a whole new system? maybe bridge the gap between gothic and 40k with a campaign book? Just saying.
I would love to see some of the specialist games return, but specialist games are very insular and niche, they are great for the bearded GW veteran, but to continue bringing new blood into the hobby i think GW also need to consider other broader reaching elements too, also the other thing to consider about specialist games is will people buy them? space hulk was a huge success, dreadfleet however wasnt and what were the reasons? space hulk had amazing miniatures that could be used in 40k as well as in space hulk which is also a cracking game, dreadfleet was totally different, amazing models but they could only be used in that game and a game whos game play never got much air time. If GW were to do specialist games they would need to rethink the stand alone game in a box and maybe look at the expandable specialist games to bring in future purchases, blood bowl in plastic with fully plastic teams and star players for example, epic Armageddon would need to be even bigger as we now have appoc, but again entire companies of marines in plastic in epic scale. Inquisitor with large scale model in plastic could work( might also stop them face planting) and yes battlefleet gothic in plastic makes total sense.



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