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Scans are out, I'm sure those who are interested in such things knows where to find them.

I dont have the WD with the rules so dont know if there are any changes in points costs.

Stormtalon Gunship 110Points
BS 4 11/11/11 2HP

Can change twin-linked heavy bolter for
Skyhammer missile launcher 15pts Range 60", S7 Ap4 - Heavy 3
Twin-linked lascannon 30pts
Typhoon missile launcher 35pts

Any change from the WD version?

Stormraven Gunship 200pts
BS 4 12/12/12 3HP

4 Storm strike missiles Range 72", S8 Ap2 -Concussive, One use only
Replace assault cannon with, plasma or lascannon for free
Heavy bolter for multi melta free, typhoon missile launcher 25pts
Side sponson hurricane bolters 30pts
Searchlight 1pt
Extra armour 5pts
Locator beacon 10pts

Blood Angel codex one has locator beacon at 15pts and extra armour at 15pts, same with the GK codex one (except the Locator beacon is called Teleport homer). GK one costs 205 because it has those special GK immunities.


I guess all SM factions will be able to use the Nephilim in a few months as well.

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Any change from the WD version?
Ended up cheaper with more expensive options (but still slightly cheaper) I think.
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Seems the people at Nova will be adding the new rules to the Nova FAQ.
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How to Handle a $30 Direct-Only "Errata" as a TO
So, Games Workshop released its Death from the Skies booklet, changing rules for several common and popular fliers in the game of 40k, adding them to codices, and only selling it direct order ... plus, selling it.

It's like an errata you have to pay $30 for.

The NOVA will be handling this by incorporating the new rules changes into the NOVA FAQ. You will not need to own a copy of Death from the Skies or an IPAD in order to use the new rules. Because that would just be terribly inconsiderate toward a customer base.
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Next will be all the sooking and bitching when GW issues the C&D I suppose.
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And there's a FAQ allready on their website ... GW is becoming so bloody hilarious ...
Why can't they just sell ... complete and proof-read products ...

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Next will be all the sooking and bitching when GW issues the C&D I suppose.
I'm curious to know if Nova can really put the changes into their FAQ, or what parts of this compendium that they can.

One way to do it would be to simply list the subtracted changes.

Example:
Storm Raven
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Locator Beacon -Costs 10 points less than your codex entry

With this they dont actually break GWs Copyright, not as far as I'm aware.

I dont think they can add those Fighter Ace rules, they are a waste for the most part though, 50pts for each flier to get a D3 chart of effects.

The Stormraven for all SM could look like this.

Storm Raven, any SM army may take a stormraven for the same points cost as listed in codex BA, must replace Bloodstrike missiles with BumBum missiles (that so happens to have the same stats as the new missile).

I'm sure there are ways of doing it, it's either this or simply banning the book outright as it's nothing more than an errata you have to pay for.

Why should someone get to have cheaper or better fliers than another person simply because they bought this compendium.


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From what the voices in my head are telling me it's one of the biggest wargaming conventions in the US. They also host one of the biggest 40k tournaments where some of the best players in the US compete.
I could be wrong though as I've never been but pretty much every podcast (all US based ones for sure) I listen to has mentioned, promoted and talked about Nova.

You can read more at: http://www.novaopen.com/

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They might just be reproducing the whole thing and saying fuck it , take us to court, likely it would cost gw more to take them to court to recoup the loss than the loss would make them anyway.



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They might just be reproducing the whole thing and saying fuck it , take us to court, likely it would cost gw more to take them to court to recoup the loss than the loss would make them anyway.
Perhaps but would they have a choice? If they dont wouldn't that mean anyone could copy anything from any of their books and post it on the net?
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They might just be reproducing the whole thing and saying fuck it , take us to court, likely it would cost gw more to take them to court to recoup the loss than the loss would make them anyway.
What they do is simply work out the loss and then simply apportion this across the other products they sell.

One of the reasons we pay the prices that we do.

Once GW prices go up all the other Mini manufactures are then clear to follow suit and the whole cycle starts again.

So really in the end we are the ones who loose out.

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Perhaps but would they have a choice? If they dont wouldn't that mean anyone could copy anything from any of their books and post it on the net?
Not really, copyright does still exist in that case but for sure any case they might bring is weakened

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