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And this right here is the problem with GW atm, feels like they go out of their way to leech as much money as they can out of their customers.
A business that is built on miniatures and the rules for a game of those miniatures actually wants to get money for what it produces?

How can that come as unusual or a surprise.

Did the person who complied these rules do it for free? are the printers and shippers doing it because they are dedicated 40k'ers?

Bottom line. GW is a business with massive overheads and they need to make money.

I don't want my rules to be a print out from my own shitty bubble jet I want a groovy bound book. If you have the free printouts you can't make the book as no one will buy it.
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Difference here is that they force you to get it. Sure you can ignore it and simply not get it, but then you cant use the Ork Bommer and those SM fliers (unless you track down the WD or donwload the rules illegally).

Like I said before, the Bommer, Storm Raven and Storm Talon cost an extra 20 now with this book. They should add the rules for them to the FAQs, not force you to buy a compendium for a single model for your army. It's not even a full page of rules for the units, all 3 could fit on a single A4 page.

I will be getting this book later this week or next week at the latest because I have no other choice, but I'm not gonna pay for it.
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They "force" you to buy any of the rulebooks/Codicies. Just be thankfull they don't simply reprint each Codex with the new rule in it and you only have to pay $AU48 to get the update for all armies rather than $AU83 for a new Codex.

Don't worry mate, I'll pay to keep your hobby going you just steal what ever you want.

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Who said I was stealin? The club is getting a copy so everyone can use it...
Kinda useless as only 2 ppl in the club even has fliers to begin with and the other guy has IG so has all the rules he needs anyways.
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I will probably 'acquire' a digital copy. Thanks for helping Mags :D

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Who said I was stealin? The club is getting a copy so everyone can use it...
Kinda useless as only 2 ppl in the club even has fliers to begin with and the other guy has IG so has all the rules he needs anyways.
Anything you get without paying would be stealing but of course if a group of you are chipping in to buy a copy that's fine by me.

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They "force" you to buy any of the rulebooks/Codicies. Just be thankfull they don't simply reprint each Codex with the new rule in it and you only have to pay $AU48 to get the update for all armies rather than $AU83 for a new Codex.

Don't worry mate, I'll pay to keep your hobby going you just steal what ever you want.
Privateer Press does the correct method of doing rules imo...You buy the model, it comes with it's rules. There is a core rule book (Which is incidentally free as well I believe, and they do quite well as a business). What people are complaining is not that they have to buy rules, but that they must buy a new book that contains rules for armies you probably don't even use/own. IF they had made it so there is this new book, or the option to individually pay/download the rules for relevant units then it wouldn't be an issue. As it sits, I only have the dakka jet as a flier, and won't be getting any others, so I will happily go out, download my rules to play a model I did pay for, and not even think twice.

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I will probably 'acquire' a digital copy. Thanks for helping Mags :D
I will be downloading the pdf as well. I have every book GW and FW has ever put out on pdf, we also have every book at the local club but in my 4 years of gaming I have NEVER seen anyone use any of the rules from any of the books. I hate reading the paper rule books, I prefer to scroll through the pdfs as it's faster and you have the search function etc.
I've never even opened my Dark Eldar codex, it's been in the shelf since the DE came out. Got the pdf 7 days before release, read it and use it for all my needs.
The only thing I use the books for is when I play and I can't remember a rule or what a specific piece of wargear does.

I guess Battlemissions would be an exception, we tried that 3 Baneblade mission once and never opened the book after that.

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Privateer Press does the correct method of doing rules imo...You buy the model, it comes with it's rules. There is a core rule book (Which is incidentally free as well I believe, and they do quite well as a business). What people are complaining is not that they have to buy rules, but that they must buy a new book that contains rules for armies you probably don't even use/own. IF they had made it so there is this new book, or the option to individually pay/download the rules for relevant units then it wouldn't be an issue. As it sits, I only have the dakka jet as a flier, and won't be getting any others, so I will happily go out, download my rules to play a model I did pay for, and not even think twice.

So you go ahead and be that white knight if that makes you feel better about yourself.
well privateer press also release rule books and they also release rule books for new types of models, for example here is there latest release
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine...hine-colossals
this is the book with the rules and stats for the new colossal models for each race, so if you want to use colossals in your warmachine game here is the book to make it possible, so GW and PP are doing the very same thing, yet GW are the villains ?

I agree with magpie, i dont want a pdf version unless its an exact copy of the paper version and it was free with my paper copy to be used on my tablet, otherwise i want a bound physical copy,full colour,loads of pretty pictures and fluffy shite that i can flick through while i drink a coffee and i dont mind paying for it.

I do also agree with taggertug, that each unit should come with some type of stat card in the box, even if it only meant units could be used in a limited way with dark vengeance.



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What is about all these guys who think they deserve a free ride?

Privateer Press "doing the right thing" is simply because they don't have the facilities to cover the costs of producing a properly printed series of books. It's any easy way to buy into the market that GW sustains.
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