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You telling me I can buy this cool flier but can't use it in the game without buying this new book?
Wouldn't that apply to pretty much any model used for 40k gaming ?
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Wouldn't that apply to pretty much any model used for 40k gaming ?
Not really...They don't make you buy another Grey knights supplement just to use your land raider do they? It's a bit different than buying a new codex when it comes out.



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If there are no points changes and such then what's the point?
Exactly how I feel really. I'm sure there is a point if it's a decent and official looking book with your unit stats in it which seems like a great concept to me. PDF's would make more sense...PP seems to be doing okay and they actually pack stats in the model's box.

Directing players to buy an all new book online with awesome shipping prices simply to use a single unit is ridiculous. I would love a book with unit stats printed out, looking all nice, giving me some info on the aerial competition out there. Assuming it could stand on it's own and wasn't required for more to use a single model anyway. I have way more armies then I need and yet only one of them is even in this book and I don't even use the unit.

I mean it is nice to be able to get stats instead of having to hunt WD's but not nice enough I'm interested in a book that's 99% X-Factor.

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Wouldn't that apply to pretty much any model used for 40k gaming ?
Well normally you buy a Codex with rules for everything in that army. In this case you get stats for a single model? If I play Space Marines I certainly don't need stats for a flying robotic french pastry for an army I don't play. Sure it's nice gee-wiz information but requiring me to buy an entire book just for the one thing I want and telling me I want everything else?

I think MadCowCrazy has a good point though; if it's only in English how offical can this be anyway? If nothing of real note was changed it's a dud.
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Not really...They don't make you buy another Grey knights supplement just to use your land raider do they? It's a bit different than buying a new codex when it comes out.
Maybe but you do get all of the data for all other armies, not just your own. If you want to know about enemy land raiders then you have to buy a heap of other books.
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Are there any reviews for this book beyond its listing for the GW site? Anything that may have been leaked?
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I believe this is just a compendium of past rules for mass consumption. Throw in some pretty pictures, print it hardcover & full colour and profit just like the "campaign book". GW will not change points costs for army X in a suppliment rulebook, that just isn't going to happen.

As far as I can tell the only thing worth checking out in this whole book is (a) how much does a BT or C:SM Stormraven cost? (b) what missiles do BT or C:SM Stormravens come with?

As I play DE & Chaos, neither of those questions are pressing enough for me to spend $40.
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People seem to forget this is how 40k and fantasy for that matter used to work, they would put out interesting stuff and new rules for new units etc in WD for people to use in games and then when they had enough material they would do a compendium with the rules all in one place, granted this was 20 years ago and we didnt have the advantage of the internet to moan about it, but if like me you didnt pick up the WD with the rules in, or missed an issue or dont want to keep referring to a WD page, this book is a god send.
People criticise GW for not putting things in WD, then they criticise GW for putting things in WD, people criticise GW because the WD with new rules sell out,people criticise GW for producing a book with the sold out rules in.People Criticise GW for not communicating with fans, GW communicate with fans about there trade mark stance,GW get a shit load of abuse about it, GW are criticised because stores are full of kids using the boards and hogging painting tables,GW are criticised when they reverse that and become shops, People bitch about GW metal models being hard to build/paint/convert, they switch to resin and have a few teething issues and its like GW have started eating babies while doing Jimmy Saville impressions.



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I'm keen to have all the various flyer rules in one bound copy.
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People seem to forget this is how 40k and fantasy for that matter used to work, they would put out interesting stuff and new rules for new units etc in WD for people to use in games and then when they had enough material they would do a compendium with the rules all in one place, granted this was 20 years ago and we didnt have the advantage of the internet to moan about it, but if like me you didnt pick up the WD with the rules in, or missed an issue or dont want to keep referring to a WD page, this book is a god send.
People criticise GW for not putting things in WD, then they criticise GW for putting things in WD, people criticise GW because the WD with new rules sell out,people criticise GW for producing a book with the sold out rules in.People Criticise GW for not communicating with fans, GW communicate with fans about there trade mark stance,GW get a shit load of abuse about it, GW are criticised because stores are full of kids using the boards and hogging painting tables,GW are criticised when they reverse that and become shops, People bitch about GW metal models being hard to build/paint/convert, they switch to resin and have a few teething issues and its like GW have started eating babies while doing Jimmy Saville impressions.
...or they could have just put up the rules for pdf download on their webpage and all problems would have been solved...
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...or they could have just put up the rules for pdf download on their webpage and all problems would have been solved...
i seriously doubt people would be willing to pay £20 for a bunch of pdfs.



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