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post #371 of 1100 (permalink) Old 05-06-12, 06:14 PM
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How reliable is Grant with rumors?
Edit: Snap fire with flamers sounds op!
I've never heard of him until he started posting rumors in the comments section of that particular blog.
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I've never heard of Grant before these rumors, so I can't say if he has got any credibility or not.

That said, its from the Faeit212 blog... and they've got a very hit and miss reliability record.

I'm inclined to call bull, simply because Overwatch and 'Snap fire' will benefit the 'stand and fire' type of army too greatly. Being pretty much able to shoot anything they moves when its not your turn seems completely OP'ed for 40k and would cause far too much inbalence.

Overwatch your heavy weapons... 'Oh look, his tanks out of cover' BLAMM!
Assault squad charges a bunch of necrons with Tesla carbines.... BLAMM! Assault troops gone.

I'm saying their wrong on logical and balence grounds.
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Overwatch: If you chose to not fire your weapons in your shooting phase the unit may enter overwatch. They may now shoot at any number of units that move within 12" of the unit in overwatch.

Snap Fire = REACTION FIRE (OPTIONAL) from Zone Mortalis
The confined spaces of a Zone Mortalis make for deadly, close range fire-fights, where a split second reaction may be enough to gun down an enemy rushing out from the darkness before death strikes you down. In order to represent this, this special rule allows units being assaulted a chance to fire their shooting weapons when they are assaulted — if they’re fast enough!

• Only units not already engaged in close combat may attempt reaction fire.
• Only pistol, assault and rapid fire weapons may be used for reaction fire attacks. Heavy weapons may only be used for reaction fire attacks if the model carrying them has the Relentless special rule.
• A unit may only make a single reaction fire attack against the first unit they are assaulted by in any given turn.
• A reaction fire attack is made after an assault is declared, but before assaulting models have moved. Casualties resulting from reaction fire may cause an assault to fail.

Making a Reaction Fire Attack: In order to make a reaction fire attack, the unit in question must first roll equal to or under its majority Initiative score on a D6. If successful it may fire its weapons at the assaulting enemy, just as it would in the Shooting phase but at -1 BS (minimum BS 1). Template weapons are used as normal if the Initiative test is successful.
A unit may not use the Counter Attack special rule if it has used reaction fire.

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Wow, Snap Fire benefits Marines over most Xenos, what a surprise...
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My god these rumors are all over the place. If even 50% prove to be real the next edition of the CSM codex will something completely alien to most CSM players.


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My god these rumors are all over the place. If even 50% prove to be real the next edition of the CSM codex will something completely alien to most CSM players.
These rumors are getting curiouser and curiouser.

But strangely, the game might be a lot more like it was back when I started in the early 90's. The game really doesn't need overwatch to return. Overwatch slowed the game down and was not nearly precise enough back in 2nd.

I'd like to see save modifiers back in 40k, but otherwise - it could be in a much worse place, rule-set wise.

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Wow, Snap Fire benefits Marines over most Xenos, what a surprise...
I don't know about that. If the Snapfire rule is legit, how many people will think twice about assaulting an IG squad with 4 flamers in it? Granted IG is not Xenos, but still.

I wonder if Snapfire could be combined with Bladestorm for Dire Avengers....
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It can't be combined with Counter Attack, so unlikely. Also, why would an IG squad of over 5 models have 4 Flamers? And if it's that small, just shoot it.
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