Well, some earlier rumors were saying it would have better armor. If that's the case, then it might (MIGHT) be worth it. As it sounds now? Nope.

Yeah better be 14/13/11 with that point increase... oh well I will just have to wait to either whine/praise the dex when it comes out.

Well it couldn't get any worse.

I have heard rumors of an invulnerable save, which MIGHT make it worth the 45 pts.

Well, if it's a 3++ then it might. In fact it better be because I love my defilers but they are already bad enough as it is. I'm gonna be pissed if they increase their cost by 33% and NOT make it worth the expense of acquiring them.

Mind you these romours are still all over the place (Which is confusing considering the codex is a month or less off). However current rumors make the CSM book sound like the GK book, hyper expensive with only about 35% of the units being worth their actually pts cost, in on the table effectiveness. Yet this would be better then the codex being SM light with cheaper yet less effective stuff then loyaists. However such a change has to walk a careful line as 1-2 pts over on a already expensive model can make including them in your army a none-sequitor. Still I guess unlike GK we can spam shitty cultists for camping objectives while dedicated and apprently overpriced units go forward to actually fight things.

Keep in mind you none of us really know anything about the new book outside of the hellbrute and cultists will be included and some tid bits about what chosen will be like.

Agreed with you Luke, but still. I really don't want to play this out like GK. I want my marines with my badass dedicated marines helping out and in large quantities killing everything. I don't want to play a game with only 25 chaos marines on the table and 60 cultists. This is Codex: Chaos Space Marines we're talking here, not Codex: Renegades of Chaos. I'm sure cultists won't even be used very often unless it's for a fun game, or a full cultist army. I highly doubt seeing them in a competitive game, but who knows.

On another note, I agree again. We're honestly all over the damn place with these rumors. Tons of shit, not knowing what exactly is legit or not. Closest we have now is the double wave, mid October release date I think. :/

100% agree and it's also my main beef. At this point in time we pretty much all knew what 6th edition would be like (We knew shooting would be more in favour than CC, we knew PW would have AP, we knew how and why transports would be less dominant etc.) but we know absolutely squat about this dex.
It's half a month away and even the model we heard the most about (The Dragon Flyer), well we don't even have any really consistent info on it other than it's supposed to cost around 170 points. Sure, every rumour has said that it would be 12/12/10 and possessed but come on! Everybody was already counting on this being the case. The more I thought about it the more I came to realize that even before I was told anything other than it's concept I expected it to have this statline. So what that really tells me is that we probably know (for certain that is. Educated guesses isn't knowledge, remember?) even less than we think.

And that really bugs me. Because I so want this codex to be good and to arrive RIGHT NOW. But I also don't want it to be too good. If it's a braindead steamroller like the C: GK I probably wouldn't find it satisfying either. So my problem is, since am an eternal pessimist, I always expect things to take a turn for the worse. So when I can't seem to glean any real information about C: CSM from all these rumours I start to become worried how it will turn out.

we didn't know anything a month prior to the release of the new edition. It was only once the edition came out that we were 100% certain of anything. The chaos dex will be the same when it comes out in January 2012..... er.... April, no..... August? Shit. Surely October 2012....?

Naturally we didn't know anything for sure. But the consistency of the rumours were much, much better than with this release. Like you mentioned, even the fucking release date have been bouncing all over the place. And info on 6th were pretty limited compared to a lot of previous releases.