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Death to all who advocate the dreaded "counts as"!
as long as the army was developed with the codex in mind it's not bad. I.E. ASM BA for night lords; Codex space marines for Iron Warriors; Space wolves as Word Bearers (it works - seriously... TWC / FW = daemons, wulfen = possessed...)

But if I take my slaaneshi warband, painted pink & armed with sonic weaponry & start playing them as Grey Knights because they're new and awesome that is wrong... but hey, still works... the guys with sonic blasters just have bolters c/w psybolt ammo & blastmasters are psycannons right? right guys? ... guys?
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Death to all who advocate the dreaded "counts as"!
I wouldn't say "death to them," but I certainly don't like what they might make people think about chaos players. "oh. they don't want a codex because they substitute loyalist codices, let's release moar loyalist codices!"

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Some more stuff from theDarkGeneral and Stickmonkey
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there may not be much focus on newer Chaos Space Marine chapters, keeping things squarely on the original 9 Traitor Legions and their splinter factions. This means it's likely there won't be much or any love for Huron.

Chaos may get a form of Preferred Enemy, but was unsure which units.

On Daemons, Daemon Princes could wind up being the only "Marked" Daemonic creatures. What this means is unclear. Could be he means there are no God-specicif Daemons, or that they are there, just that they don't use "Marks".

Whilst on the subject of Daemon Princes, they will move more in line with the ones in the Daemon Codex but "with a more Chaos Space Marine feel", gong on to say they may gain specific benefits for different Legions.

Terminators were a big topic, Chosen may not have access to Terminator Armour (contradicting his previous rumour), but that Cult Terminators would return in some form. He went on to say he believed there would only be two Terminator units, claiming one was some sort of "generic cult" unit that was given special rules according to the Legion being played. He made sure to reinforce that this was an early playtest, so things could have changed.

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a plastic Chaos drop pod could be in the works, but tempered that by saying we probably wouldn't see it any time soon. Whether the kit is released soon or not, there could be a chance of the rules appearing in the Codex though.
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Drop Pod? Ohh I like that.
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Drop pods are well over due - but why a new kit? Does not make sense to design anything new, just whack in a chaos sprue in the existing product. Of course if there is any significant wait on the 'new' kit, people will just buy the loyalist one and tart it up with a sprue anyway.


It seems to me that putting in specific units for 9 different legions is well above the usual scope of a typical GW codex and simply won't happen. It seems likely that the HQ chioce or legion you pick will have generic rules that will apply to your force and give it the legion flavour, at least thats how I view it.

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Slaneshy, they'd have to redo the cover art and increase the price if they include an extra sprue... honestly its almost easier to make a whole new product.

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Slaneshy, they'd have to redo the cover art and increase the price if they include an extra sprue... honestly its almost easier to make a whole new product.
Not really. The Space Marine Rhino and the Chaos Marine Rhino are almost the exact same thing, except for the accessory sprue, and they're the same price

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I think it would make a lot of sense to just add a sprue to the already existing drop-pod, but if that was what they were doing, I doubt there would be a long wait for it as was suggested. I think whatever they come up with may just be an equivalent to a drop pod, not an actual drop pod maybe..

Seriously looking forward to this codex! Can't wait to see what GW come up with. As long as it allows for more interesting fluffy armies, I'm happy!
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Slaneshy, they'd have to redo the cover art and increase the price if they include an extra sprue... honestly its almost easier to make a whole new product.
Not really. The SM Rhino and Razorback are exactly the same kits except the razorback gets some guns. Yet they are still the same price. And as Dawnstar ointed out, he same can be said about the SM and CSM rhino kits.


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Slaneshy, they'd have to redo the cover art and increase the price if they include an extra sprue... honestly its almost easier to make a whole new product.
A new box and an existing sprue vs months of design and development, prototypes and moulds, then mass production....and then the box and sprue on top that would of done the job anyway....

You must work for GW with that logic!

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