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The problem with it is releasing the iDex for the iPad when they really should release the iDontGiveAfuck

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re-edit: Come to think about it, I've got another reason to be reluctant about the iPad/iPhone platform. I've found that those can get quite distracting while gaming. In my turn, I'd have opponents check their email, or download the latest movie trailer "just to show me...", etc... I've asked this opponent (which is my best friend!) to cut back on iStuff use while gaming.

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I had a friend doing that. He was looking up 40k related things and we had several players but if he wasn't rolling he was surfing. Annoying.
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So typical... SM has their codex up... nobody else does though.. lol
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What didn't you read the subtitle on the BRB? Space Marines (and these other guys).
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It's not that surprising they went for Apple, the studio has maybe two PCs in it, and all the formatting and pre-production is done on Macs.

Annoying though, but understandable.

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Meh, I spent several years in graphics arts universities and all that hype about Mac being better for design is false. I believe Mac enters into agreements with design schools, gives them better deals for their computer labs and in turn hypes up their own product.

There is nothing a Mac graphic designer can do with his computer that I can't do with my Windows 7 PC and Cintiq tablet.
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There is nothing a Mac graphic designer can do with his computer that I can't do with my Windows 7 PC and Cintiq tablet.
Very true. I finally convinced my girlfriend this. She is a graphic design major as well. She was able to get a screaming good Laptop (i7, 6gb ram, dedicate Nvidia card, high res/large monitor), bamboo drawing pad, precision mouse, and a Cannon T3i all for about the same price as an equivalent mac book pro.

Adobe is fully capable on both OS and thats all that really matters.

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I believe Mac enters into agreements with design schools, gives them better deals for their computer labs and in turn hypes up their own product.
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The point that finally put turn my girlfriend away from mac for design was this situation:
I called her University's Graphic Design program director asking about the program they offer, pretending to be interested in enrolling. I said "I see on the program's website that you require mac computers..."

He replied "That is correct, Mac computers are the dominate and superior platform for design work and all major companies use Macs. This is why we require, or at least strongly recommend, that our students purchase Mac computers."

"The thing is, I just bought a $2,000 high-end PC laptop and an Adobe Suit. As a college student, I would not be able to afford a mac book in addition" I responded.

"I see, why did you go with a PC if your interested in a design major?" he asked

I explained "I needed a computer that could use various programs that are only compatible with Windows. On top of that, I play certain video games that are only compatible with Windows. I also noticed that every University I have researched mainly deal with Adobe products such as InDesign, Photoshop, Flash, and Illustrator. All of these programs are equally available on Windows. Adobe does not favor one OS over the other as far as I can tell... If I use a Windows computer to complete the program at your University, will I be hindered in any way? Will I not be able to complete certain assignment or classes?"

He paused. "Your laptop will not hinder you from going through the program. The layout will just appear a little different in the Adobe programs. All the functionality will be available to you."

"Will I be losing any valuable information if I use my laptop?" I asked.

"No, the only thing you will miss is getting used to the mac OS." he answered.

"But all of the computers in the design labs are mac correct?" I pressed.

"...yes they are"

"So I can use my laptop, not get a mac, and still learn the mac OS in class, without losing any functionality or suffering any hindrance in classes?"

"yes"

"Thank you"

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It's not that surprising they went for Apple
This is no different that most other companies, as much as android is growing, most apps still appear for apple first before android.

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Mac OS is preferable for working on with mutiple programmes, as well as hosting a lot of exclusive software like Final Cut Pro and Pro Tools. PCs are fine though

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Ok, 11 pages later I think I am up to date here.

First, it is good to see GW getting into digital, it is a good step, Desolatemm I think has a better way to distribute it, more work I would guess, but a more universal approach. The Apple route was likely just easy.

On security, anyone with half a brain can steal android stuff (not that I do, but I easily could), it is more difficult with Apple stuff, this means the decision is likely also to have some basis in security of format.
Now before I get flamed on the "but they would still sell pdfs if they made them" argument, let's look at a theoretical situation:

Two people on tablet codecies in a GW store, one is an ipad, the other is any non-Apple device.

At present (with ipad release) the GW store manager can kick the person out with the non-apple device as they can't possibly be using a legal copy of the codex?

If there were pdfs about, and as they are non-secure or breakable if secure then it puts GW in a difficult situation, they have to assume that any pdf copy is a legal one, so if that is the case why would anyone ever buy one?

It would be like the anti-piracy police targetting people with mp3 players and demanding they show their right to have an mp3 copy.
The best way to secure digital copies is at source, Apple have a very controllable source so are likely to get things first - this is ignoring all the other benefits the Apple brand brings.
From GWs perspective, I would guess that straight pdf files are not worth the costs to them, alternative formats maybe and lets hope that they do something for the android and Windows people out there, subscription would sound like the best option to me = people pay vast sub fees for online gaming so why not tabletop (so long as updates are fast and frequent).

Before you commence flaming, this comes from someone who intends to buy a Samsung tab, has a Samsung phone and will not be buying an ipad, but would love to own digital copies of the books.

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