In 40k cos-play outfits, that would certainly bring in the punters
Depending on how big you are planning to make the place you could base it on Warhammer world; lots of game boards and a refreshments area.
Putting refreshments on sale wouldn't cost too much, the tuck shop I run in my office made £500 profit
last year, and that was just from me buying the stuff at the pound shop and selling it 5 or 10p less than the shop across the road (100 staff in the office to give you an idea of the market audience).
As long as you feed the profit back into the business you won't have to pay any tax...
Anyway, like I said, if you need some help give me a shout, I have quite a bit of experience in organising events and things.
Perhaps not strippers but something like what we have in the US. Take a look around the web for D20 Girls. They are a group of female gamers(shocking I know) who promote the positive aspects of various game systems and females being involved. They are there to have fun and help everyone else have fun too.
I really don't wanna see strippers dressed as space marines, ogryns and ratlings thanks.
Gimme strippers dressed as German panzer captains thank you, with some strippers in French napoleonic uniforms.. skimpy ones
That's just what I want when playing a wargame. A dominatrix cracking a whip next to me.
Originally Posted by RetiredFlagellant
The stripper market is over-saturated in Birmingham(so I've heard).
Try for something not so sexually based. The D20 Girls can't be a purely American concept. You get women there, under any context, including nerdettes coming to game, and guy nerds will show up because guys like interacting with women.
if i were in your area i'd like to see a place with nice terrain. sweet terrain makes games more fun for me. my local game store is small and has a limited selection of terrain and most of it isn't painted. i don't think the owner makes enough to put the serious amounts required into getting nice terrain. you'll have to be careful though, not all people are careful with things that aren't theirs. make sure you have enough space to properly store it, make sure you label the areas so you don't have terrain all jumbled up anywhere they can find to put it. this will help keep it neat and orderly.
i'll also second selling snacks and such, my local only sells sodas and while nice, it'd be better if he sold snacks. he'd probably make a small fortune off peanut M&Ms from myself alone.
also, get starter boxes for games so that newcomers can try them out ie island of blood, black reach, warmachine starter etc. have them painted so the newbies can see how cool everything looks.
a designated area for people to paint would also be nice, buy a couple of tall floor lamps for better light in that area.
get some really nicely painted minis and put them in a display case, this will also help with the lookers, you could let regular patrons store extremely well painted minis in the case so you didn't have to buy and paint them yourself.
well those are my thoughts on the perfect game store. hope that helps.
Terrain is difficult for a starting club as it gets expensive quick. My gaming store has been around long enough that they have donated terrain. It's not all great but we can set the tables up in dynamic ways if we choose. Some people also choose to bring their own terrain pieces to add in for the day. The store owners do frequently set the tables but sometimes an early arriving player will help. But that player, being a good sport will not choose the table played on for any of their games.
I also would like to know about the local gaming interests, is it just 40k and fantasy?, is there known to be a adequate historical gaming scene (and I don't mean flames of war, that's not historical).
How open are the people who may attend to other systems?
Will it be a mostly competetive scene?
What would be some basic rules? (i don't want to come and play against grey plastic or poorly done models, a set skill level system would be nice so people are put against equals in all things)
What's the area considered like? Easy to get to? Quiet area? Shops local to? Public toilets near or in venue?
I know that's part of what this is for, but if its being set up by gamers for gamers there should be a good idea already, if its not being set up by gamers my interest plumets to nil (gw is already staffed by people with no interest in the product)
Keeping track of skill level, especially when it comes to painting is very elitest of you. You may have time to make all your minis pretty but some of us work and have little time to paint. So yes, parts of my armies are still grey. That says nothing of my painting skill, just the time I have. Furthermore, painting and gaming skill is subjective. Half the people I show a model to like it, the other half hate it. Guess I'm a mediocre painter because personal preference for certain colors and schemes and "what I would've done with that" play not part in this. As for gaming skill. If I win every game I play because all my opponents have made fun lists to try things out because they want to see how they work, does that make me a better player than somebody who lost every game because all his opponents brought power lists? So excluding or categorizing players just creates an elitest environment that is actually intimidating to new players because they are being judged right away, possibly by what army they choose to play.
Flames of war is not a WWII games, its a GW combination of rules, created by ex GW staff creating a very poor game that poorly represents WWII, its reasons like that (and the poor prices, product quality and continuous release of expensive books constantly adding stupid things to the game) that FOW is utterly forbidden down here
Elitest. Good thing everyone you play with is just like you.
Is it official that this guy's Stella now?
I prefer WAngmar.
It is not gestapo tactics, its a way to help people, a way to guide them and give them suggestions
If a player in the end decides to play a waac player despite you suggesting they don't, then yes it is there fault, if however they have no idea of there opponent, his skill and attitude it is the clubs fault for not helping make either player aware, they basically abandon these hobbyists.
I am not saying you forcefully make players equal play another, your guiding.
Obviously as I said some people must have shitty gaming enviroments to suggest these are gestapo tactics, or suggest a waac player is as equal a victim as a casual player they prey on.
That's your first post that did not imply this was forced upon all participates. Perhaps that is the reason for hostility, not the idea itself. People like their free will. You can suggest I do something all you want, but in the end, I'll do what I feel like doing. And, most of the players I know WILL play differently when facing a new and especially a first time player. Granted, we must be friendlier or more casual, certainly less competitive than your group. The point is to teach a new player, let them learn and have fun. By your system, if I take a soft list to teach a new player who has basic units and I loose, my ranking goes down. Nevermind that I'm ensuring they come back and improve their tactics.
New player comes to club, they are nervous, quiet and timid
You people want no part to be played by the staff of this club, so for this example they have no part
Waac player notices new player
Waac player offers new player game
New player being eager and keen to play accepts
Waac player chooses a 6x4 board and sets up terrain to be in his favour because no staff were involved to do it BEFORE the club opens
New player being timid and inexperienced accepts how his superior sets the board
New player has a black reach + battleforce army (a generally accepted starting point)
Experienced player has purifier spam lust (a generally accepted power list)
The game begins
New player is slow to act, shows inexperienced tactics and choices and generally acts like a new player
Waac player exploits RAW to its fullest extent, exploits his list to its fullest extent and within a few turns wins
New player feels disheartened, confused and sad
Waac player...well does what they do best, gloats, boasts and acts like a cock
New player never returns, never buys more models and takes no part in wargaming
The staff taking no active role (as per certain posters obvious wishes and selfish beliefs) are oblivious to what has happened and never deal with the problem
BUT....at least we know, the waac player, was the actual victim in all of this.
Most of the players I know would step in and help the new player in that situation. If a known power/waac player is at my store and we see a new player arrive, several of us are going to get between those two players to avoid the situation. Where I play, there is usually only 1 or 2 staff working and if they took time to run our gaming group for us, it would hurt their sales and we could wind up with no place to play when the store closed. They trust us to run it and keep things civilized as most of us are adults(at least 18) and we can handle a situation maturely. We have no ranking system and most come for a fun game and a chance to bullshit with people who have similar interests. Some are more competitive but we know who they are and help new players learn how each of us plays. Ohh, and unpainted models are just as welcome as world-class painted ones, WAngmar.