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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-02-12, 05:18 PM
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The problem I find is that the second you offer up even a single event with physical prizes, wether 'free' product or outright cash value, you encourage & foster a sense of entitlement in the participants.
Now it becomes 'expected' that every single event will offer up prizes, and if you don't, well, you're at fault because you've already offered up prizes in the previous event/s.


We tried to break this trend at our local GW store. Suffice to say, the first event we ran that offered up just 'bragging rights & a good time!' had a record low turnout. (3 people showed up, when typically we'd have had 15-20+ when we offered prizes)

Those who'd normally attend our events went on a verbal rampage against us, but we just stuck to our guns and continued running events with no prizes beyond having some good fun.

Eventually, after about a year, our attendance slowly crept up back to about where it had been before. And best of all, those who came out had a tone of fun! No more arguments over rules or players being unsporting... No more whine fests about cheesey lists and broken rules...
We also found that those who stayed away because we didn't offer-up actual prizes tended to be the ones who caused most of the trouble!


Good riddence I say! Prizes at events are nothing but a cancer that encouraged douchebag behavior and being a total dick. Send the mercenaries packing on their merry little way so they stop ruining the fun for the majority of people who are looking at tournaments as being a fun experience!
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In a weird way, we actually decided our local tournament (a private tourney with about 32 friends) wouldn't have GW prizes anymore. First, everyone had anough generic kits (eg cities of death buildings). Second, local stores are all too small (heck, you can't fit 32 persons in the local GW store even without tables) or don't really encourage GW (in the case of FLGS).

So now we have medals, dog-tags, keychains and stuff like that made with the category (eg Best General, Best Painter,...) and logo of our group. Pretty much all of it was well like and cheap enough to keep the fees low.

I contacted GW once or twice with links to our forums and pictures of the tourney and armies. I knew they used to give nice stuff like that Marneus Calgar banner, posters, etc. Never got an answer...

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I like the prizes at the local tournaments... it is a nice bonus. As an end, it is a bad reason to go.

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Ok...so I run the Local game store in my area, and have been working wiht my rep, and depending on the modules(new stockist program) your store gets a consider amount of support form them, to do anything form buying terrain, to tourney prize support, to sending back out of date product...

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Nothing wrong with a prize at the end of a tournament as long as that is not the reason you go. The reason you go is to have fun, muck around and claim bragging rights, a prize is just a bonus, a nice 1 at that but not a means to an end especially at locals or small events it only encourgaes people to be reckless, bring cheese lists and act as rule sharks. If I'm only after a weekend of fun I dont want any of the aforementioned, I just want to play and run around with my necron warriors, if theres a prize great, if there not no big loss Its just a game after all.

now if its a regional or some bigger event where statewide/National status is on the line then you could make an arguement for having prize support since these events tend to get hundreds of people who pay to get in and try to get glory so they can go on to even larger events but these events tend to be far more serious then your local weekender anyway but even then if your getting national status do you really need a prize?.

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