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There are several methods for making snow. Here is my method, which are steps taken from other people’s ideas mixed with my own experiments. I use bicarbonate of soda as my ‘snow’ because it has a nice glistening quality similar in appearance to real snow. You don’t to get this from the GW snow scatter.

What you will need

Material
1. Baking Soda
2. Pollycell ‘No Sanding Pollyfila’
3. PVA Glue




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1. Something to mix the stuff in
2. Something to mix with
3. Something to apply the mix with



Step 1
Mix some PVA and baking soda. The mix is about 50/50 in quantity. You will need to add water until the mix becomes ‘gloopy’.
NOTE - The mix needs to be watered down prior to adding the pollyfilla. If you don’t the entire mix will be ruined as it turns into a big blob of rubbery type material.




Step 2
Add pollyfilla until the mix becomes a soft paste. It should be slightly wet. I normally find the volume of pollyfilla required is double what is already in the mixing pot, but it can vary depending on how much water has been added already.




Step 3
Apply mix to base or scenary as required. It is possible to form drifts with this mix.




Step 4
Cover snow with more bicarbonate of soda. Leave for around 5 minutes and then light tap of excess. Place figure to one side to thoroughly dry over night. Once completely dry further excess can be shaken off. I also use a dry brush to dust off any bicarbonate that has got stuck in awkward places.



Step 5
Varnish the model. This will secure any loose bicarb in place. Here is a objective marker that has been varnished with dull coat spray.



A word of warning. This method does not allow things to be glued on top of it. If you glue figures onto this mix once it is dried, it weakens the mix and the figure will come off with a big clump of snow attached to the base. To get figures standing on hard snow I would recommend glueing them to the base with spacers under their feet to allow the snow to be level with the bottom of the foot.

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Excellent tutorial Humakt, +rep!

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good stuff!

i'll be using this on my forthcoming board!
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Any clue that the Pollycell ‘No Sanding Pollyfila’ is called in the USA?
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We can't get the mix just right. Besides from the mix getting filled with clumps the steps generally don't look like yours.

If this is where you added water
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...orial/mix2.jpg

and this is where you added the pollyfilla
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...orial/mix3.jpg

Then when does it get like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...orial/mix4.jpg

What exactly is the pollyfillas function? Is it to accelerate the drying process? Is it absolutely necessary? Our Swedish version of the filla seems to have a slight yellowish or greyish tone.

The biggest problem though is that whenever we sprinkle the whole thing with baking soda, it swells up to look like a big blob of bubbling shaving cream.

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EDIT: The core problem seems to originate from a misconception. Apparently there's polyfilla in powder form (The pic I couldn't identify). I only knew of and owned a tube of polyfilla in paste form. I'll try to get my hands on some powder filla and give it another go!

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I was wondering, Humakt, if the same process would work with baking powder. I've tried mixing it with glue but it comes out flaky and clumps. The only problem I can see is that Baking powder reacts to water, do you have any thoughts on how to avoid this?

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EDIT: The core problem seems to originate from a misconception. Apparently there's polyfilla in powder form (The pic I couldn't identify). I only knew of and owned a tube of polyfilla in paste form. I'll try to get my hands on some powder filla and give it another go!
The pollyfilla I used is not the 'wet' premixed but a very dry lgith version so yes this could be the cause of you difficulties. Let us know the results.

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I was wondering, Humakt, if the same process would work with baking powder. I've tried mixing it with glue but it comes out flaky and clumps. The only problem I can see is that Baking powder reacts to water, do you have any thoughts on how to avoid this?
The problem with replacing the bicarbonate of soda with baking power/sod is that the 'cream of tartar' has a chemical reaction when exposed to liquid and goes all bubbly as you have found. I would edit the main instructions to make it clear that bicarb should be used and not baking soda/powder as I stated. Hope this clears this up.

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I tried it with bicarbonate of soda, worked great : ) Yet to have tried with pollyfilla though but from these results I'm not sure it's even needed.

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Great stuff, glad it worked for you. I found the pollyfillas gives it more solidty for deeper drifts on the base, but thats my experience.

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