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Default Art and Design work! Gnosis appearance.

And so we come to one of the most important parts of designing any army. The visual aspect, and as such it falls to the artists of Heresy to make their mark. We need design sketches, concepts and idea for the appearance of the Gnosis and the influence they have upon their human allies.

Below is the concept for the Gnosis as they came to be.

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During the long journey through the vast darkness between the myriad galaxies, the ship was bombarded by exotic radiations that had never been planned for in the ship’s design. The resultant mutations began to hyper-accelerate the evolution of those living aboard it. In a span of only five generations, the beings that had once been called human were little more than orbs of coherent thought, freed of mortal flesh and brittle bones. After their transcendence, it was decided in the first great consensus that they should adopt a more fitting name than that of their ancestors. They began to call themselves the Gnosis, and in doing so adopted an identity separate from their predecessors.

The blessing of unending life, as it was first considered to be, had come with a price. Though they would never age nor fade away into the dark void of death, they were also cut off from their world. Unable to touch or manipulate the world around them, for nearly a thousand years the Gnosis wallowed in despair. It wasn’t until one of their numbers gathered its resolve and tested a theory it had regarding its ability to interact with the long inert machines that had once aided the forbearers in their daily lives.

The experiment proved to be a success, the moment that thought merged with machine and exerted the will to move, the body glowed with new life and new purpose. Machines became an extension of what they had become, vessels that would allow the beings of thought to exist within the world they had left behind. These proxies, as time wore on, became much more elaborate. From the humble framework of utilitarian limbs and bulbous bodies grew elegant figures of metal. The more elaborate the design became, the better the machines seemed to function under their will.

So in essence what we need is fitting artwork to depict their machine forms. Additionally, we need modeling ideas, suitable models to represent the proxy bodies or otherwise ideas to convert existing models to suit.

I therefore encourage all of Heresy's artists or anyone else to have a go at sketching some ideas. There is no set limit at this stage, so feel free to interpret the Gnosis how you see fit.

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http://www.infinitythegame.com/infin...ategory/aleph/

The Aleph have really cool robots that are sufficiently ultra-futuristic and esoteric.








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I like the build of those models, but what kind of pallet would the Gnosis go for? Do they even have a uniform color scheme, or do individual proxies have customized paint jobs? Are they even painted, or are they just flat metal? I think the idea has already been bandied about that they glow somehow when inhabited, what color is it? Do they glow at the joints? Or just the eyes?

I'd lean towards a flat grey or black maybe branching out into browns with a red glow from the joints and any lines in the armor, but that's just me.

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In my original concept, I wrote it in that the Gnosis choose their scheme to suit their own personality. No two Proxies are the same, at least not visually. I would imagine the mechanisms and what have you are generally the same, but aesthetically speaking, it is up to the individual Gnosis to accessorize... or not... according to their own desires.

The only thing I can see all of them adhering to once they actually return to the galaxy and take an active role in it would be their symbolism. I would imagine that like a Space Marine Chapter, they would agree upon one symbol that best represents them as a race and they would affix it to their Proxies. What that symbol is, I don't know yet since I didn't get that far, but that would be the only item of uniformity that I can see them requiring of their Proxies.

The glow that emanates from the seams of the Proxies, as I see it, would be more of an iridescent blue. I envision their bodies looking similar to the below (excuse the cheesy MTG card, but it actually looks close to the image in my head)



And a glow of a similar color would give them a calming kind of glow to them, even if their Proxies are being used to crush some enemy of the Great Consensus into oblivion.


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I do like the Aleph models. They are unlike anything else in 40K. My thought had been to use Tau Battlesuits, but to have some non-40K is probably best.

I like the idea of joints and seams glowing as well. To have just glowing eyes feels too Necron to me. They should not be seen as soulless either. Quiet the opposite, all they are is souls.

That is a good glow look jonileth. It looks pure and benevolent, evoking curiosity. Is that the shape you were thinking of for a Gnosis outside a proxy body. It looks good and gives me an idea.

The image and description originally presented remind me of Will-o'-Wisps from D&D. Like those, a Gnosis in its "true" form could evoke curiosity and confusion in those who see it. We could even model them with modified/converted Tyranid Spore Mines or something. I suggest this because I would imagine a Gnosis in a Proxy to not be a cheap unit to field. Their rightous glow would probably give them the Fear rule and those in vehicles would have a Hule Point boost perhaps. But those not in a Proxy could be joined to units. As they are incorporeal, they can't be hurt but would benefitt the unit they join. Their unit would get a Leadership bonus for their inspiring presence and enemies shooting the unit could get -1 BS if the Gnosis is the closest model, like it's confusing them. Maybe Fearless units are immune to that.

I know it's too early to talk rules. But I wanted to explain my reasoning for wanting to model a Gnosis in "true" form. And of course, if the unit it joins is destroyed, it is removed from play. Perhaps further benefitts can be gained with multiple Gnosis in one unit.

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The Aleph models do look like streamlined Tau, not sure if thats a good look really.

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Some of the Aleph models look decent enough, but some of them just don't really fit. The wheeled models and the quadrupeds just don't look like something I could see the Gnosis really using.


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I do like the Aleph models. They are unlike anything else in 40K. My thought had been to use Tau Battlesuits, but to have some non-40K is probably best.

I like the idea of joints and seams glowing as well. To have just glowing eyes feels too Necron to me. They should not be seen as soulless either. Quiet the opposite, all they are is souls.

That is a good glow look jonileth. It looks pure and benevolent, evoking curiosity. Is that the shape you were thinking of for a Gnosis outside a proxy body. It looks good and gives me an idea.

The image and description originally presented remind me of Will-o'-Wisps from D&D. Like those, a Gnosis in its "true" form could evoke curiosity and confusion in those who see it. We could even model them with modified/converted Tyranid Spore Mines or something. I suggest this because I would imagine a Gnosis in a Proxy to not be a cheap unit to field. Their rightous glow would probably give them the Fear rule and those in vehicles would have a Hule Point boost perhaps. But those not in a Proxy could be joined to units. As they are incorporeal, they can't be hurt but would benefitt the unit they join. Their unit would get a Leadership bonus for their inspiring presence and enemies shooting the unit could get -1 BS if the Gnosis is the closest model, like it's confusing them. Maybe Fearless units are immune to that.

I know it's too early to talk rules. But I wanted to explain my reasoning for wanting to model a Gnosis in "true" form. And of course, if the unit it joins is destroyed, it is removed from play. Perhaps further benefitts can be gained with multiple Gnosis in one unit.
I like the idea of Gnosis out of Proxy bodies. It adds a certain dimension to them. Plus, boosting basic IG Leadership or making them harder to hit would be a benefit. I don't think a vehicle-form Proxy should get a boost to Hull Points as that might be too powerful but we could give all Proxies the It Will Not Die rule.

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Some of the Aleph models look decent enough, but some of them just don't really fit. The wheeled models and the quadrupeds just don't look like something I could see the Gnosis really using.
Yeah. Some Aleph look good but others are pretty bad. And that glow you are going for should be pretty cool. I'm not sure how you could pull it off though.

Any good painters in the group want to try getting that glow in the eyes and seems of a model? A Tau or Marine model should work, but use what you have.

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just noticed this thread on Sketches and Art and seeing as I had a bit o' time to kill thought I'd get in on this idea, anyways here's 'A' take on the idea don't know if this will be helpful but it was a butt load of fun to do.

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