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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-16-16, 02:09 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Nordicus View Post
Deadpool has always been closely tied to The X-Men. Hell, he was a part of X-men for a time, before he joined X-Force instead. His best buddy is Cable, who is also a X-Men.
I'm familiar with the comic book history, I meant that the X Men movie universe is owned by 20th Century Fox, while Marvel's cinematic universe is completely seperate. Fox own the rights to several Marvel characters. It's why Marvel had to "buy" back Spiderman for the new Captain America movie.

Deadpool is made by Fox, but in association with Marvel, which is the first I was referring to.

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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-23-16, 09:21 AM
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I think I'm the only one who didn't like it. The violence was overly gratuitous and felt forced in because you need to have horrible violence for it to be Deadpool, not because it made it a better movie. The thing that really got me was that it felt very inaccessible to someone who doesn't know the first thing about the comics; there was never any explanation of what the characters could actually do. So, Ajax/Francis, he injected himself with the mutant serum and did his whole torturing people into mutants (which was totally unnecessary to actually show us, and cheapened it to boot), and he tells Deadpool that it gave him really good reflexes. Neat, I thought, his girlfriend is super strong and he's super fast, that's a neat dynamic. Nope, he also has a maybe-better-maybe-worse version of Deadpool's regeneration, which is revealed when he needs to be able to regenerate to stop the film from ending halfway through. Huh. Oh, final fight scene, this is cool; he's acquired signature paired weapons, apparently, so he's now a weaponmaster as well as a mad doctor. Wait, he just threw Deadpool clean through the air? So he's also got improved strength, because I'm not believing that he had time to be a mad scientist *and* become some kind of axemaster *and* work out enough to be able to throw someone bodily through the air. If that's even a thing, I don't know if it's possible for a normal human to even be that strong. The strong lady sub-villain trades punches with the big metal guy, but then half way through the fight punches him clean through the air. She didn't open with that move because... well, I dunno. Presumably the same reason that the teenage girl could blow up the entire scrapyard but didn't use that until the very end either.

The supposedly hilarious comedy felt shallow and puerile, not to mention predictable (I've got to respect the actors at the end of the film, because to act surprised when he shot Ajax/Francis mid-speech must be an Oscar-worthy feat).

It felt like a film that was catering purely to people who already knew the characters and the setting intimately, and therefore didn't need to explain anything or try and appeal to anyone. It's almost certainly just my personal experience, but everyone I know who went to see it has come back saying it's the bestest film ever and oh, what a wit the writers must have had and how brilliant it is that they've released it and it's a breakthrough. They're also people who would have enjoyed being kicked in the balls if it'd been delivered by a guy dressed as Deadpool. Unlike the other Marvel movies, I felt like I was sitting in an exclusive club of people who'd had a film made specially for them, and both they and the film didn't want me there if I wasn't part of the club already.
i have to congratulate you, i havent logged on in a while, but after reading about your experience of this movie i simply had to stop lurking and ask you what they fuck?
The film didnt just cater for comic book nerds in the slightest, if anything this was the most mainstream comicbook movie of them all, yes there were plenty of "in" jokes for the "fans" but ultimately it was a extremely funny action movie that happened to also feature a comicbook character.
This is proven by its box office numbers,a comic book movie with this age restriction could not bury everything else in the franchise in ticket sales if it didnt appeal to a wider audience than comic book nerds like me, okay i suspect some of the sales can be attributed to the fact Ryan Renolds is a hit with the ladies,but Deadpool really was a good movie. Was it overly violent? absolutely and if it hadnt been there would have been no point making it, was it crass? yes ,but the same applies,but also making it the way its supposed to be was a risk for Fox(and im shocked they allowed it) and thats reflected in the small budget, $58 million for a comic book movie is peanuts and considering the end product and the box office success i can imagine some future projects will be under alot of scrutiny from the studios in future.
Anyway dead pool was a pop corn movie, if anything i think the comic book film category needed this film, it needed the humour, it needed the viloence and it needed a film with this rating to show that you can still make an entertaining film that people will go see in large numbers and it doesnt need to be toned down for the kids market, im hoping the people at lucasfilm also take note of this and give us a few harsher star wars movies as time goes on.

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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-25-16, 07:35 AM
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After X-Men: Origins fucked up the Deadpool character, I don't think Fox would have had the balls to try re-making Deadpool without ensuring they had him written perfectly.

Why else would this be the first superhero movie in a long time to receive an R rating among so many other kid friendly entries to the genre?

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