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Assault SM list, 1850 Competive

Space Marines 1850


HQ: 325

Chaplain Lattanzio (Chaplain Cassius)
Pts 165

Assault Marshal Valdez (Kor’sarro Khan)
Pts 160

(Go in rhinos and are the spearhead)

Elites: 180

Tec-Marine “Fitzgerald”
Servo-Harness, Power Weapon
Pts 90

Tec-Marine “Preacher”
Servo-Harness, Power Weapon
Pts 90

(go in Rhinos as a added punch)

Troops: 690

Tactical Squad “Guzza”
Melta-gun, Power Fist
Missile launcher
Rhino, Extra Armor
5 more marines
Pts 245

Tactical Squad “Kempter”
Melta-gun, Power Fist
Missile launcher
Rhino, Extra Armor
5 more marines
Pts 245

(tac squads sits back and combat squads)

Scout Squad “Hawkeye”
Shot-Guns
Power Fist
Pts 100

Scout Squad “Mason”
Shot-Guns
Power Fist
Pts 100

(scouts go in storms)

Fast attack: 320

Land Speeder storm “Blade”
Heavy Flamer
Pts 60

Land Speeder Storm “Greyhound”
Heavy Flamer
Pts 60

(storms go and drop scouts off and flame a unit)

Land Speeder Squadron”Unyielding Sun”
2 Land Speeders
X2 Assault Cannons
X2 Multi-Meltas
Pts 200

(Land Speeders kill tanks)
Heavy Support: 340

Predator Main Battle Tank “The Emperor’s Hammer”
Lass cannon Sides
Pts 120

Predator Main Battle Tank “Emperor’s Might”
Lass cannon Sides
Pts 120

(preds. provide fire support, mostly sit back)

Thunder fire Cannon “Eternal Fire”
And Tec-Marine “Hudson”
Pts 100

(Thunder fire cannon sits and lays down curtains of fire)

C+C much liked
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Considering this is meant to be competitive, i'll have a shot at it.

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Space Marines 1850


HQ: 325

Chaplain Lattanzio (Chaplain Cassius)
Pts 165

As good as his T6 is, he is just a chaplin, and a librarian would be better off here. Also, who are you going to attach this guy to? i see no assault units for him to buff. if you do pick a libby, them give him null zone and either the avenger or smite.

Assault Marshal Valdez (Kor’sarro Khan)
Pts 160

This is good here, as you can outflank with rhinos, even if the reserve rolls will be abit random. Still, he has no CQC units to go with.

(Go in rhinos and are the spearhead)

Elites: 180

Tec-Marine “Fitzgerald”
Servo-Harness, Power Weapon
Pts 90

Tec-Marine “Preacher”
Servo-Harness, Power Weapon
Pts 90

In competitive play, Techs do not do well. They're a single wounded model in the open if you want to make use of their abilities. Take them off.

(go in Rhinos as a added punch)

Troops: 690

Tactical Squad “Guzza”
Melta-gun, Power Fist
Missile launcher
Rhino, Extra Armor
5 more marines
Pts 245

Tactical Squad “Kempter”
Melta-gun, Power Fist
Missile launcher
Rhino, Extra Armor
5 more marines
Pts 245

This is fine.

(tac squads sits back and combat squads)

Scout Squad “Hawkeye”
Shot-Guns
Power Fist
Pts 100

Scout Squad “Mason”
Shot-Guns
Power Fist
Pts 100

Scouts aren't good, even if you do get first turn assault, they're going to die in assault. Scrap these guys.

(scouts go in storms)

Fast attack: 320

Land Speeder storm “Blade”
Heavy Flamer
Pts 60

Land Speeder Storm “Greyhound”
Heavy Flamer
Pts 60

With my advice above, scrap these for regular landspeeders with multi-meltas and heavy flamers

(storms go and drop scouts off and flame a unit)

Land Speeder Squadron”Unyielding Sun”
2 Land Speeders
X2 Assault Cannons
X2 Multi-Meltas
Pts 200

This is fine

(Land Speeders kill tanks)
Heavy Support: 340

Predator Main Battle Tank “The Emperor’s Hammer”
Lass cannon Sides
Pts 120

Predator Main Battle Tank “Emperor’s Might”
Lass cannon Sides
Pts 120

Not a fan of this type of pred. should either change to heavy bolter sides to dedicate it to infantry mowing or light transport popping. Those lascannons are way too expensive.

(preds. provide fire support, mostly sit back)

Thunder fire Cannon “Eternal Fire”
And Tec-Marine “Hudson”
Pts 100

As much as this is destrucive, it is oh so very weak. One shot from a bolter and render this unit useless. Scrap it.

(Thunder fire cannon sits and lays down curtains of fire)

C+C much liked
-tom
With those points, see if you can get a land raider crusader in with 5 TH/SS terminators in. Have libby (assuming you followed what i said) and Khan join them to a good assault unit. squeeze in a vindicator or two as well if possible. This is for competitive play of course. It would be helpful to know what units you have however.

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I agree with the previous comment on HQs, the troops are fine. For the scouts, I am a fan of the storm combo, but scrap shotguns for bolt pistols and chainswords to make them more competitive. The speeders are fine.
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