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Emperor’s Champion- Accept Any Challenge No Matter The Odds(140)
Master of Sanctity-Plasma Pistol/ Artificer Armour/Meltabombs(150)

[588] Crusader Force Michael
7 Assault Terminators-Lightning Claws/ Thunder Hammers and Storm Shield/ Crusader Seal/Furious Charge(588)
* Land Raider Crusader- Smoke Launchers/ Dozer Blade

[236] Crusader Force Raphael
6 Initiates-Powerfist/Meltagun/Crusader Seal
*Razorback – Twin-Linked Lascannons/Smoke Launchers

[236] Crusader Force Uriel
6 Initiates-Powerfist/Meltagun/Crusader Seal
*Razorback – Twin-Linked Lascannons/Smoke Launchers

[150] Crusader Force Gabriel
Predator Annihilator- Lascannons/Extra Armor

1500/1500

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ok, first just because you can take two Hq's beyond the Champion i would recommend not to. Pick one or the other and drop one. More points you have to spend else where in your list the better.

you are 3 points over, i know its not really a big deal, seeing you are only 3 points over, but if you set the limit at 1500pts then you cannot go over it.

at 1500 pts your model count seems a little low and two land raiders is a gamble at best to run at low points. One good melta or rail gun shot and you now have a 250+pt piece of terrain.

Now if you have not seen it i recommend looking at the latest FAQ.

If you want to run a mech heavy BT, at 1500pts, might i recommend not taking the landraiders. Run three squads of initiates put them into rhinos.

Now you need some fire support. well if you noticed that the typhoon landspeeder cost the BT only 70 pts. Two crack Missiles on a fast skimmer for a mere 70 pts, and can take up to three of them per slot. This is going to be good.

Then in your heavy slots. You look at either a vindicator or a predator of your favorite flavor. If you go the Vindi route, go ahead and give the beast EA and Power of the Machine spirit. This will be the most feared thing you can field out of BT.

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Edited, I hope that is better.
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OK, as a comparison to your list... here's what you can run in a 1500 point Codex list.

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2 full tac squads (FL and ML) in TL Las Razorback
2 Rifleman Dreads
3 Typhoons with MM
3 Autolas preds

Vs the list you posted above, you got outshot 3:1 and only get 1/2 the scoring uints... Vs those odds, you're probably not going to be very successful with you list in it's current form.

IMO, big problem in your list is the cost per choice... You have almost 600 points in the Assault Termie wagon. That is a HUGE chunk of your overall force which is very hard to balance at 1500 points.

So my advice would be to drop the hammer unit and reinvest those points elsewhere.

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ok first off, don't post a list from a different dex in here that just adds confusion, a direct comparison is not effective, I could do a lot with his list against yours, but he needs some refinement is all.

something to look at is the new Templar Wing;

HQ
emperor's champion suffer not the unclean 125

Troops
crusader squad, 5 las-cannon razor back twin-linked las extra armour 190
crusader squad, 5 las-cannon razor back twin-linked las extra armour 190
crusader squad, 5 las-cannon razor back twin-linked las extra armour 190

Elites
terminator squad, 5 cyclone missile launcher (2) tank hunters crusader seals chain fist (4) 295
terminator squad, 5 cyclone missile launcher (2) tank hunters crusader seals chain fist (4) 295

Fast Attack
land speeder, 1 MML 70
land speeder, 1 MML 70
land speeder, 1 MML 70

Points Summary:
HQ: 125
Troops: 570
Elites: 590
Fast Attack: 210
Total: 1495

granted if this is out of your capabilities I would use those las-backs as rhino's with full 10 man squads in it. you have a lot of good strengths in this list, you just need to accentuate your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.

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Thanks, I haven't ever thought of just using one HQ and using Suffer not the unclean to live. Land Speeders in 1500 pts should be used maybe predators onl in 1500+.
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