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TROOPS

Scouts x5
Telion
3 snipers
missle launcher

Tactical squad x10
lascannon
melta gun
Sgt: Power fist/combi melta
Rhino

Tactical squad x10
lascannon
melta gun
Sgt: Power fist/combi melta
Rhino

FAST ATTACK

Vangaurd Veterans x6
6 relic blades
melta bombs
jump packs
w/Shrike

ELITES

Legion of the damned x10
melta gun
Multi melta
Damned sgt: power axe/plasma pistol

Sterngaurd veteran squad x10
7 combi meltas
3 combi flamers
Drop pod

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Well, this list sure looks fun enough...

But this list severely lacks armor vehicles, although this list has a lot of AT capabilities. My suggestions is to drop the Legion of the Damned (yes, they look cool and fun, but they are not very good at battle) and try to get some armored vehicle, like Predators or Vindicators.

The troops are solid enough, but I think you shouldn't use the combi-melta. The melta gun carried by one of the tacticals, and the sergeant's power fist is already a strong enough.



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Thanks for the input. Im kinda going on a urge to creat a list with minimum vehicles to nullify most lists melta spam mechanics. Basically my oponnents wont have much to shoot at with those lascannons and melta guns making those options sort of obselete against the list. The legion is there to take pressure off of the rest of the army by making the enemy saturate them with firepower. With their 3+ invulns the 10 man squad should live awhile.
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Thanks for the input. Im kinda going on a urge to creat a list with minimum vehicles to nullify most lists melta spam mechanics. Basically my oponnents wont have much to shoot at with those lascannons and melta guns making those options sort of obselete against the list. The legion is there to take pressure off of the rest of the army by making the enemy saturate them with firepower. With their 3+ invulns the 10 man squad should live awhile.
Well, basically vehicles can project more firepower too, and give your opponent something to shot at than just your infantry. That's my opinion though.

Legion of the Damned is just damned tough, but personally I think they don't have much firepower, compared to their brothers the Strenguard Veterans. The Sternguard is less tough, but could bring much higher firepower through their Special Ammunition.

And if I am not mistaken, for the Vanguard Veteran Squad, only the Sergeant can carry the Relic Blade, am I right?



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According to the codex any veteran may replace their bolt pistol or chainsword with a relic blade for 15 points.
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According to the codex any veteran may replace their bolt pistol or chainsword with a relic blade for 15 points.
Well, in my codex (p. 139) it is stated that :

Vanguard Veteran Squad
Wargear :
- Chainsword (Sergeant has Power Sword)
- Power Armour
- Bolt Pistol
- Frag/Krak Grenades

The Sergeant may replace his chainsword with :
- a lightning claw (x)
- a power fist (y pts)
- thunder hammer / relic blade (z pts)

Any model may replace his bolt pistol and/or chainsword with :
- a storm shield (z pts)
- a plasma pistol (z pts)
- a power weapon/lighting claw (z pts)
- a power fist (a pts)
- a thunder hammer (b pts)

Based on my codex, I think only the sarge could bring the relic weapon.

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Well, in my codex (p. 139) it is stated that :

Vanguard Veteran Squad
Wargear :
- Chainsword (Sergeant has Power Sword)
- Power Armour
- Bolt Pistol
- Frag/Krak Grenades

The Sergeant may replace his chainsword with :
- a lightning claw
- a power fist
- thunder hammer / relic blade

Any model may replace his bolt pistol and/or chainsword with :
- a storm shield
- a plasma pistol
- a power weapon/lighting claw
- a power fist
- a thunder hammer

Based on my codex, I think only the sarge could bring the relic weapon.
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EDIT - @darkreever - normally I do but I wanted to try and get his attention to change his points cost.

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With the list...Thunderfire is correct, only the sergeant can take a relic blade, but the other veterans may have PW, lightning claw, PF or thunderhammer.

I would drop the legion of the damned and the vanguard, get 2 vindicators, and if you can replace the rhinos with razorbacks.
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Thunderhawk is right, only the sgt can have a relic blade.

But the list looks pretty good. But I would suggest that you trade your rhinos for razorbacks. They will give you more firepower and still allow your troops to be mobile.

I have never used the Legion of the damned so I cant really comment on them. They look really tough and there ability to deepstrike is really cool. Youll have to let us know how they do.
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just because you don't have vehicles doesn't mean that your opponents metla and lascannon spam will be useless, it just means that it will be targeting your troops and instakilling them with no saves allowed...
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