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ok after seeking out you guys feedback on a Landraider Spam list I decided this would be better. oh and i am using Astorath becasue i love the model and his axe is awesome.

HQ-(220) Astorath the Grim

Elite-(130) Sanguinary Priest x2 with power weapons
Elite-(130) Sanguinary Priest x2 with power weapons

Troops-(189) Assault Squad x8 - Jump Packs, power fist, melta gun
Troops-(412) Assault Squad x9 - Basic Land Raider, power fist
Troops-(412) Assault Squad x9 - Basic Land Raider, power fist
Troops-(180) Assault Squad x5 - Razorback Twinlinked Assault cannon,
power fist
Troops-(180) Assault Squad x5 - Razorback Twinlinked Assault cannon,
power fist

Heavy-(145) Predator - Lascannon heavy sponsons, hunter killer missile

Total-1998/2000 points

a more competative list would be this

HQ-(100) Librarian-Shield of Sanguinius, (other pschic power here)
HQ-(100) Librarian-Shield of Sanguinius, (other pschic power here)

Elite-(130) Sanguinary Priest x2 with power weapons
Elite-(130) Sanguinary Priest x2 with power weapons

Troops-(394) Assault Squad x8 - Basic Land Raider, power fist
Troops-(394) Assault Squad x8 - Basic Land Raider, power fist
Troops-(180) Assault Squad x5 - Razorback Twinlinked Assault cannon,
power fist
Troops-(180) Assault Squad x5 - Razorback Twinlinked Assault cannon,
power fist

Heavy-(135) Predator - Lascannon heavy sponsons
Heavy-(135) Predator - Lascannon heavy sponsons
Heavy-(120) Dreadnought 2x twin-linked autocannons

Total 1998/2000 points

so there is the Army i will build, however i am still open for feedback please tell me if you have any suggestions that will strengthen it

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the smaller units aren't great with power fists. Rule of thumb usually is below 8 power weapon, above a fist. It gives the unit more wounds and a higher chance to be able to use the fist.

Als owhy the basic land raiders? You should have enough anti tank with the preds and dreadnought. A redeemer or crusader would do nicely, especially in an assaulting role here. But if you want to keep them I'd recommend changing the Predators to something a bit more troop orientated then, maybe a baal pred instead perhaps??

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Looking at the list... I think it's shy on anti tank... Without the raiders, there are only 5 shooters in the list... with the basic LR, that goes up to 7.

Comparing this to the extreme end of Razorspam (9 shooters with my wolves for example) it's going to be underpowered (cause you've got 800+ points tied up in Raiders) So I'm thinking the other 1200 needs to be oriented into getting at least 7-8 more shooters on the board or foregoe it and dump a everything else into maxing out the number of cc guys you get onto the board.... Or just drop the heavy and run 400 points of death company...

But where it is now, I don't think it has enough of a shooting element to be able to hang with the more shooty based armies (ie, my guard has 9 shooing units and my normal wolf list has 13)

So my overall thought is that it's better to push the list to the extreme end of function. The BA lets you do this with the number of meltas you can drop next to your opponent... that gives you immediate threat that other codexes can't get without Drop Pods (at + cost)

So if I were going to run LR plus CC oriented... I would look to hide my LRs on the first turn, hopefully drawing my opponent out.. then hitting him in a flank later turns while I did the raider rush into something...

Only other comment is around the Sang Priests... I think 4 is a bit excessive... I would go with two and then keep everybody within the bubble. Keeping the list a bit more lean on points.

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