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Need a bit of help with putting together a joint Blood and Dark Angels list. I really like the fluff behind both chapters so I wouldn't want any unit spams or stuff like that. I feel like the Blood Angels should have death company and Sanguinary Guard supported with multi wing from the DA as it would bring the best of both worlds, especially with shooty Terminators. Let me know what you think and how I could make an effective, yet fluffy list.

I was thinking along the lines of including all these units -

-Death company
-Sanguinary Guard
-Deathwing Termies
-Ravenwing bikes
-DA veterans

any help would be much appreciated!

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This is just a rough sketch, but

225 (I think?) - Dante
115 - Chaplain - PF

225/235 - 5x SG - PF, 2x Melta
210 - 8 DC - 2x PF

Allied DA

??? - Sammael

~235 - 5 Deathwing

2 min sized bike units


This is a tall order mate, all very expensive units you've chosen for yourself. Another thing you could do is go unbound~

5 SG as above, and if you want 2 units then a priest would be a good idea.
10 DC with chaplain (or less if you want a transport, like a raven, which would be a good idea)

5 terminators, 2x bike units, and a unit of vets in a pod with meltas

A flier or two would be good, and since this is unbound you could fly in two stormtalons if you wanted. Your strategy would have to be a sort of hammer/anvil; with your terminators, deep striking vets, and DC you could draw in your opponent's fire, protecting your more vulnerable but faster troops. Then hit him like a ton of bricks with your flying terminators while plasma-ing the shit out of whatever might hurt them.

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OK, so this isn't quite what you were asking for....but whaddaya think of this list?

Belial - TH/SS

5x Deathwing squad - 4x TH/SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher

5x Deathwing squad - 3x TH/SS, Plasma Cannon

Reclusiarch

9x Death Company - 2x Power Axes in a Drop Pod

Death Company Dreadnought - Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer

Stormraven - Twin-Linked Multi Melta and Lascannon

1500 points bang on.

I think it shows that this list needs to be played aggressively. Both Deathwing squads in T1 with the Death Company, hopefully you get that Stormraven in T2. I have some other ideas, but this one made me chuckle so much I'm doing it as soon as I have a couple more TH/SS Terminators made up. You could also ditch the Stormraven for Sanguinary Guard (two Axes, three Swords) and swap out ol' Blenderfists for DA Veteran squad and 45 points to spend on their kit. Alternately 135 points buys an OK looking Ravenguard squad but without Azrael or Sammael you're lacking Objective Secured, which will be crucial since you have so few models and you might not have enough time to kill everything in 5 turns so Objectives will be paramount to victory.

EDIT: upon looking back at this I would say the swaps would be a hell of a lot more fun to play with, but with Ravenwing over the Veterans.

Belial - TH/SS

5x Deathwing squad - 4x TH/SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher

5x Deathwing squad - 3x TH/SS, Plasma Cannon

Ravenwing squad - +1 bike, Melta Gun, Veteran Sergeant

Reclusiarch

9x Death Company - 2x Power Axes in a Drop Pod

Sanguinary Guard - 2x Axes, 3x Swords

Everything's quick, or otherwise T1 Deep Striking. This list has made me finally want to get a box of Sanguinary Guard models.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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So this is what I've come up with:

Sammael w/ Corvex

5x Deathwing Terminators
- Cyclone Missile Launcher
- 4x Lightning Claw pairs

5x Ravenwing Attack Squadron
- 2x Meltaguns

5x Ravenwing Attack Squadron
- 2x Meltaguns

5x Ravenwing Attack Squadron
- 2x Meltaguns

Commander Dante

6x Death Company
- Drop Pod

5x Sanguinary Guard
- 1x Infernus Pistol

Totals up to 1497


I think 1500 points is just not enough to be able to run 2x Deathwing squads and still be effective. I think if you were able to scale up to 1750/2000 points, you would be able to build a much better and more well rounded list.

That being said, it would be possible to run Belial + 2 Deathwing squads at 1500, but you might have to sacrifice either the Death Company or the Sanguinary Guard.

For example:

Belial w/ Sword of Silence

5x Deathwing Terminators
- Cyclone Missile Launcher
- 4x Lightning Claw pairs

5x Deathwing Terminators
- Cyclone Missile Launcher
- 4x Lightning Claw pairs

6x Ravenwing Bikes
- 2x Meltaguns
- Combi-Melta

6x Ravenwing Bikes
- 2x Meltaguns
- Combi-Melta

Commander Dante

5x Sanguinary Guard
- 1x Infernus Pistol

Totals out to 1497.

Alternately, you could field it with Death Company instead.

Belial w/ Sword of Silence

5x Deathwing Terminators
- Cyclone Missile Launcher
- 4x Lightning Claw pairs

5x Deathwing Terminators
- Cyclone Missile Launcher
- 4x Lightning Claw pairs

5x Ravenwing Bikes
- 2x Meltaguns

5x Ravenwing Bikes
- 2x Meltaguns

5x Ravenwing Bikes
- 2x Meltaguns

Reclusiarch

9x Death Company
- Drop Pod


Totals out to 1487.

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Yikes, that's the first time I've ever seen someone suggest full LC Deathwing over TH/SS. Without that 3++ I have never had the unit succeed in anything because of how small the squads are and how often AP2/1 shooting happens. It's been my experience that those Terminators are typically attacking last since most things that are real CC threats have a higher Initiative than they, and that the things that strike back at I1 with AP2 have a good enough armour save or toughness to not give many fucks about LCs. 25 points for squad-wide 3++ is just ludicrous not to take in my games.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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love all these ideas guys but personally, ntaws list sounds great, especially since i have all the models for it. it also incorporates all the fluff iŽd like with all the chapter specific models. Will probably end up looking like eldar with all those colors and whatnot haha Anyway, if i do decide to scale it up, iŽd probably think of adding more meat.

Thanks for all the help guys anyway
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Yikes, that's the first time I've ever seen someone suggest full LC Deathwing over TH/SS.
Yeah, I do think that they need at least some models with TH/SS but it just came down to points really. Could always trade a Death Company dude for some TH/SS around the place

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