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Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   09-03-13, 02:42 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,917
Posted By coke123
Fair enough, edited so that certain individuals...

Fair enough, edited so that certain individuals mightn't misinterpret the meaning of my post...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   09-02-13, 03:01 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,917
Posted By coke123
Hmm... I have a retort to that, but I'm not sure...

Hmm... I have a retort to that, but I'm not sure if it's allowed under the posting rules. Perhaps you can help me, Mr. Mod?

++self edited by the inquistion++

Or would I have violated the...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   09-02-13, 01:38 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,917
Posted By coke123
The funniest part of this list is the Heavy...

The funniest part of this list is the Heavy Flamers on overwatch.
Forum: General 40k   08-30-13, 06:22 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 975
Posted By coke123
Paint them however you like. Cohesive forces look...

Paint them however you like. Cohesive forces look the best anyways.

Although I'd suggest you paint the rim of their bases different colours for differentiation.
Forum: Eldar Army Lists   08-30-13, 12:36 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 630
Posted By coke123
I'd drop the D-Scythes on the Wraithguard for...

I'd drop the D-Scythes on the Wraithguard for Holofields- frankly you already murder infantry, and the S10 and extra cover save is far more valuable.
Forum: Eldar Army Lists   08-30-13, 12:34 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 709
Posted By coke123
Properly built Eldar don't really need allies-...

Properly built Eldar don't really need allies- but this basically means "Just take Serpent Spam/Hybrid". These are pretty much the only competitive builds without allies in my eyes.

If you want...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-26-13, 09:09 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,070
Posted By coke123
No one in their right mind will run right into...

No one in their right mind will run right into range of psyammo and psycannons just to avoid one or two S8 blasts. Seriously. By letting it hit you with a bit of S8, you avoid... an entire Grey...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-25-13, 03:57 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,070
Posted By coke123
I'll then try to explain myself poorly and then...

I'll then try to explain myself poorly and then give up out of semi self-inflicted exasperation.



These tweaks are going to make your list better, but I still wouldn't call it 'strong'. It's...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-25-13, 01:06 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,070
Posted By coke123
I wouldn't take the conversion beamer, it's an...

I wouldn't take the conversion beamer, it's an expensive gun that's generally really suboptimal. You want guns that are good when you're close, not guns that give the enemy yet another incentive to...
Forum: General 40k   08-23-13, 03:06 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 2,602
Posted By coke123
"Netlisting" isn't even really a thing- mostly...

"Netlisting" isn't even really a thing- mostly because most "netlists" are so painfully obvious that anyone with more than two brain cells to bash together is capable of creating these netlists. The...
Forum: General 40k   08-23-13, 04:44 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 2,602
Posted By coke123
If you're a beer 'n' pretzels guy, I would...

If you're a beer 'n' pretzels guy, I would suggest that tournaments probably aren't the event for you. Look for a campaign weekend instead, you'll enjoy yourself much more at a non-competitive event....
Forum: General 40k   08-22-13, 01:56 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 2,602
Posted By coke123
Tons of people do it. I've been to several events...

Tons of people do it. I've been to several events where the top tables have largely been painted by one or two guys. One or twice a TO has asked a prominent local commission painter to judge painting...
Forum: General 40k   08-22-13, 12:59 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 2,602
Posted By coke123
I have multiple issues with soft scores. To...

I have multiple issues with soft scores.

To start with- painting is inherently unfair because of commission painting. The fact that a player can literally pay someone else to contribute what is...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-21-13, 02:06 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 713
Posted By coke123
Then what are you using it for? When someone sees...

Then what are you using it for? When someone sees a unit brimming with missiles and skyfire, the natural assumption is that you're hunting planes and light mech, but if you have another target for...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-21-13, 06:36 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 713
Posted By coke123
Conditionally. You're assuming all drones hit,...

Conditionally. You're assuming all drones hit, which you can't guarantee. Even then, it's still not as scary as going "Hey, now I get to reroll armour pen with a bunch of S7".

The way I run the...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-21-13, 03:46 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 713
Posted By coke123
Was only poking fun :P. Thing is,...

Was only poking fun :P.



Thing is, there are times when Ignores Cover kinda blanks/is redundant, but Tank Hunters is pretty much always useful, and in the couple of corner cases where it does...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-20-13, 03:03 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 5,127
Posted By coke123
^^Actually yes, Luelen probably has the best, and...

^^Actually yes, Luelen probably has the best, and simplest tweak to your list.
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-20-13, 03:01 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 713
Posted By coke123
1650 is weird. Is this what people usually play...

1650 is weird. Is this what people usually play in your neck of the woods?

The general list is pretty good, just a couple of tweaks.

The Commander wants PENChip and Iridium- they're kinda the...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-18-13, 02:17 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 5,127
Posted By coke123
Frankly, at 500pts I wouldn't even bother...

Frankly, at 500pts I wouldn't even bother worrying about the strength of your list. The game is really only balanced for the 1500-2000pt range, so as you're building up you should focus more on...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-17-13, 09:00 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,225
Posted By coke123
If you're new to the game, you might want to read...

If you're new to the game, you might want to read these.

https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126386
https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126440

I'm still...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-17-13, 08:50 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
It really depends on the matchup. Either 2+ guys...

It really depends on the matchup. Either 2+ guys behind an aegis or 3+ cover wraithguard are good, and you'll need to weigh up which is better from game to game.
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-17-13, 12:44 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
Read the Conceal power. It specifically...

Read the Conceal power.

It specifically states that it targets the caster, and no-one else. It works by casting on the Spiritseer/Warlock. The caster then gains the Shrouding special rule. Since...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-17-13, 12:35 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
Read the Conceal power. It specifically...

Read the Conceal power.

It specifically states that it targets the caster, and no-one else. It works by casting on the Spiritseer/Warlock. The caster then gains the Shrouding special rule. Since...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-16-13, 04:32 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,225
Posted By coke123
[obligatory disclaimer] Draigowing isn't a very...

[obligatory disclaimer] Draigowing isn't a very good army. It suffers from a horrendous lack of scoring models and mobility, and doesn't even have the insane survivability it had in 5th...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-16-13, 03:17 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
Spiritseer can't Stealth the Serpent, Shrouding...

Spiritseer can't Stealth the Serpent, Shrouding has to target the caster. Frankly, if they could do this, Eldar would be so wildly broken it's not funny (basically every army would be made up of...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-15-13, 12:20 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
If you want the Guardians on foot, the Farseer...

If you want the Guardians on foot, the Farseer can join them, but he can't go inside their transport, obviously. I don't really see the benefit of the jetbike here, and there's better ways to spend...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-14-13, 07:28 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
I don't think that the Apothecary is that...

I don't think that the Apothecary is that necessary, but he's certainly not bad.

Also, re: Master Crafting all the stormbolters- please don't be that guy. I played someone who did this once, and...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-14-13, 02:47 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
I pretty much agree with everything you've said...

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here.

The real thing about Draigowing is that it combos really well with vehicles, since it helps you achieve saturation. The weapons that are most...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-12-13, 12:18 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
Halberds are better because they give greater...

Halberds are better because they give greater resilience over swords- Killing something before it even has a chance to strike is better than rolling a 4++ (by dint of it preventing your opponent from...
Forum: General 40k   08-11-13, 02:09 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,513
Posted By coke123
Sethis wins this thread. The Night Scythe is...

Sethis wins this thread.

The Night Scythe is the best transport. Being able to spam a flyer is retardedly good. Assuming we knock it out for being hands down the best unit in the game, then the...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-11-13, 01:10 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 4,663
Posted By coke123
It's extraordinarily difficult, and if I were...

It's extraordinarily difficult, and if I were building a competitive list, I probably would not do it- mostly because Grey Knights really, really want to be bringing allies. In a semicompetitive...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-08-13, 01:22 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 532
Posted By coke123
List looks good, it's pretty much what I'd run.

List looks good, it's pretty much what I'd run.
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-07-13, 02:20 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 656
Posted By coke123
If you're playing the FW list, then the...

If you're playing the FW list, then the autocannon is fine, and probably better than the plasma gun anyways, so keep it.

I understand that 1500pts is restrictive, but the assault cannon on the...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-07-13, 04:05 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 532
Posted By coke123
I really don't love blobs. Some people seem to...

I really don't love blobs. Some people seem to make them work, but frankly I've been testing the two ideas over the last year, and the extra firepower from veterans has won me over. Triple specials...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-07-13, 02:57 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 656
Posted By coke123
List looks fine, although normal chimeras can't...

List looks fine, although normal chimeras can't take AC turrets- is this using forgeworld?

I personally don't like the HB on the Vendetta, but it's not awful. Not really sure what I'd drop it for...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   08-07-13, 02:47 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,513
Posted By coke123
Obligatory Disclaimer: Draigowing isn't a very...

Obligatory Disclaimer: Draigowing isn't a very good army. I also don't think that GK add all that much to Eldar (being someone who plays both armies independently). You can probably build something...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-30-13, 09:14 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,926
Posted By coke123
BS3 is fine on other platforms because other...

BS3 is fine on other platforms because other platforms are cheaper. You can grab a meltagunner for less than half the cost of a Jokaero, and he can move and shoot his own gun as well.

As for not...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 10:57 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 3,752
Posted By coke123
I was going to address every point you bring up,...

I was going to address every point you bring up, but I got half way through and realised that you're simply not interested in listening, so I decided to not waste my time. I'm just going to point out...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 01:05 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 724
Posted By coke123
Interceptors are OK, I probably wouldn't be...

Interceptors are OK, I probably wouldn't be playing them in a hard tournament list (mostly because I'd be putting those points into allies), but they're perfectly fine for semi-competitive casual...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 04:56 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 724
Posted By coke123
Yes it is, and I totally missed that, although I...

Yes it is, and I totally missed that, although I was really just talking in more generalistic terms about the overall build he's proposing.
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 04:54 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 3,752
Posted By coke123
The Brother-Captain adds nothing to your army...

The Brother-Captain adds nothing to your army other than being a semi beatstick- and a very inefficient one at that. By not bringing literally any other HQ in the Grey Knight codex, you're depriving...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 01:08 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 724
Posted By coke123
Much more servicable. I wouldn't call it...

Much more servicable. I wouldn't call it top-notch competitive, but it's a pretty good start- the Coteaz+30 GKSS core is pretty much the most solid base you can form for GK, so it's a very good way...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-29-13, 12:52 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 3,752
Posted By coke123
Terminators are... OK, I guess, but brother...

Terminators are... OK, I guess, but brother captain is just handicapping yourself too much.[/quote



and...? Not sure what the problem is here...



I'd argue that the Terminators aren't...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-28-13, 06:25 AM
Replies: 2
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Views: 408
Posted By coke123
Seems pretty good, couple of things though- ...

Seems pretty good, couple of things though-

I prefer DCA+Crusaders in the Raven.

Give the Chimera to the CCS. Also, give the CCS and the Veteran squad that keeps its Chimera plasma guns, and...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-28-13, 06:13 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 724
Posted By coke123
First up, read these- ...

First up, read these-

https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126386

https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126440

They answer the more basic problems of your...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-28-13, 05:59 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 3,752
Posted By coke123
Everything except for the Terminators and...

Everything except for the Terminators and Brother-Captain seems reasonable for semi competitive play for pure GK- obviously not top-notch, but servicable in an LGS environment.

Assuming you want...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-27-13, 06:49 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 544
Posted By coke123
Both are pretty good, but both need some tweaks. ...

Both are pretty good, but both need some tweaks.



This is largely fine, but I would prefer the GKSS be the large squads, and then you just default to 5 man Necron Warrior squads in the scythes-...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-26-13, 10:34 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 999
Posted By coke123
Assuming he's willing to pretty much permanently...

Assuming he's willing to pretty much permanently change them into GKSS, that's a fair point, but also requires a touch up on the paint job, so perhaps not exactly 60 seconds.
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-26-13, 02:55 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 999
Posted By coke123
Vendetta's better than the Raven, but seriously,...

Vendetta's better than the Raven, but seriously, the list kinda needs a total rework, and I doubt you have enough time to put that into effect- the list still isn't very strong, but I'm sorry to say...
Forum: Grey Knights Army Lists   07-25-13, 09:08 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,926
Posted By coke123
Spehss Monkehs are terrible anti-tank- you...

Spehss Monkehs are terrible anti-tank- you seriously think 3 Jokaero can deal with Heavy Vehicles? They can't. Basically, their BS3 means they're very, very unreliable, and they struggle to bring...
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