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Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   02-15-12, 03:54 AM
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Views: 300
Posted By casca
each force must be it's own force org. 1250...

each force must be it's own force org.

1250 each, must each have 1 hq, 2 troops.

and we will be playing each of the 3 scenario's, as well as each of the deployments.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   02-15-12, 03:06 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 300
Posted By casca
1k tourny this weekend

ok, so my friend and i are teaming up for this weekend's tournament, the way the rules are going is that it is 1000 points per army, (if the army is fully painted you get an extra 250 points... so...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-29-12, 03:13 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 258
Posted By casca
so there has been a minor change in my partner's...

so there has been a minor change in my partner's list, which has caused me to rework mine a small amount. when i say minor, my partner won't be able to run the grey knights at all, which leaves us...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-29-12, 02:34 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,224
Posted By casca
instead of thinking just assault marines, have...

instead of thinking just assault marines, have you considered vanguard veterans? while yes they are more expensive in points, they also can pack a massive punch that the assault marines lack.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-27-12, 07:42 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 712
Posted By casca
just as a note your 5 man tac squad that has...

just as a note your 5 man tac squad that has upgrades is illegal, you have to have 10 men in a tac squad in order to have upgrades.

i am always partial to a 4 plasma cannon dev squad and a pair of...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-27-12, 05:46 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 258
Posted By casca
Upcoming Doubles Tournament

ok, we have a doubles tournament coming up early next month, and my partner and i are throwing around some different ideas for lists.

the tournament setup is 1250 per person, force org as normal....
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-27-12, 05:15 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 328
Posted By casca
the only thing i would really be half way...

the only thing i would really be half way inclined to change on this list is to drop two of the land speeders, and replace them with 2 multimelta attack bikes. this will allow you to put one power...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-25-12, 11:46 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,175
Posted By casca
HQ Librarian: storm bolter where is this...

HQ
Librarian: storm bolter
where is this guy going? there isn't space in either rhino....

TROOPS
tactical squad: PF, ML, flamer and rhino
squad is just what the doctor ordered for...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-24-12, 11:11 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 683
Posted By casca
the big thing that jumps out at me is the pair of...

the big thing that jumps out at me is the pair of predators with so many points in them. i think you would be better off with a autocannon on top and lascannon sponsons. this would save you...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-23-12, 11:16 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 367
Posted By casca
predators cannot have twin linked autocannon, it...

predators cannot have twin linked autocannon, it is just a single autocannon. and the price is actually 120 points not 130.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-23-12, 03:57 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 367
Posted By casca
[QUOTE=Mitnal;1146537]HQ : Lysander - 200 ...

[QUOTE=Mitnal;1146537]HQ :
Lysander - 200

Elite:
Terminator Assault Squad x 6 man 240 pts - TH/SS x 5, LC x 1
+ LR Crusader as Transp. basic load out with extra armor and MM - 275 pts
no...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-23-12, 03:43 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 939
Posted By casca
how can your blood champion have a power fist?...

how can your blood champion have a power fist? that is impossible actually, when he is upgraded to a champion he loses the ability to upgrade weaponry, it's actually just like how the sanguinary...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-20-12, 06:20 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 687
Posted By casca
one of the big things that you are lacking is the...

one of the big things that you are lacking is the number of troops that you have.. in 3k points you have 2 troops... if i go up against you i take out those two units and stay away from your 1 land...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-18-12, 10:15 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 4,621
Posted By casca
i like running both of my storms setup in a...

i like running both of my storms setup in a fashion like this but i run heavy flamer on the land speeder storm for some extra anti troop capability from them. i've very rarely if ever not gotten my...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-18-12, 09:42 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 296
Posted By casca
i have tried the command squad, both decked out...

i have tried the command squad, both decked out as well as with just meltaguns, and with all sorts of weapon combinations... (my bike command squad is fully magnetized with every weapon setup...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-16-12, 02:14 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 564
Posted By casca
you might drop two of your bikes in each squad...

you might drop two of your bikes in each squad for an attack bike... it has the same amount of wounds as the other two, but will give you some extra shooting. as well as thinking about making one of...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-15-12, 08:22 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 296
Posted By casca
2500 point white scars visited by Vulkan.

OK, so this is the list that i have come up with for an up coming tournament. i'm working on finishing doing the paint on it right now and would just like some input from some other people to see...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-08-11, 02:45 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 518
Posted By casca
what is your plan for a monolith or two? you...

what is your plan for a monolith or two? you might get a lucky lascannon shot off and have it pen... but if they have two monoliths you might be SOL on destroying them both. unless you plan on...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-28-10, 02:45 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 961
Posted By casca
i'm not a huge fan of full bike squads......

i'm not a huge fan of full bike squads... essentially for every 2 full squads that you have you could be taking an extra squad of bikes...

4 bikes, attack bike with MM, 2x meltaguns, power fist is...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-20-10, 05:45 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 799
Posted By casca
so, a 3 man squad, plus 1 makes 4, plus an attack...

so, a 3 man squad, plus 1 makes 4, plus an attack bike in each of the squads is 5 bikes... 5 man bike squads = troops choice.


and because the bikes all come with twin linked bolters... the draw...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-19-10, 01:57 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 799
Posted By casca
drop one biker from 2 of the squads and for the...

drop one biker from 2 of the squads and for the 25 points i would take powerfists in their place.

or drop one biker from 2 squads and put that mm attack bike back in the list. (i would go with...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-19-10, 01:07 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 799
Posted By casca
actually ive found that vindicators are...

actually ive found that vindicators are sufficient to draw fire away from my bikes to the point where i don't like running bikes with out at least 1 on the table...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-19-10, 03:42 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 799
Posted By casca
i would try and squeeze points to make it so that...

i would try and squeeze points to make it so that you can have a pair of vindicators. putting even one on the table will draw a ton of fire away from your bikes. the other thing you could do is run...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-16-10, 03:18 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 425
Posted By casca
the librarian will perform very very well. i run...

the librarian will perform very very well. i run a 185 point librarian quite often. on bike instead of ss and armor, but he works wonders. you go first, and you wound most models on a 2. what is...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-12-10, 02:02 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 423
Posted By casca
any reason that you went with the really random...

any reason that you went with the really random number that is 2200? the more normal game sizes that you see, are increments of 500... and 1750... not 2200...

you should make your list so that it...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-11-10, 08:45 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,143
Posted By casca
i would switch you HQ choice out, a librarian, or...

i would switch you HQ choice out, a librarian, or a chaplin would increase the effectivness of the rest of your army, the chapter master is just wasting points... you get the same stat line for a...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-10-10, 12:04 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 828
Posted By casca
the list that Kuolema has written there will do...

the list that Kuolema has written there will do very well for all the reasons that he has stated.

shrike is just too expensive and isn't justifiable for his points.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-09-10, 04:20 AM
Replies: 0
Views: 391
Posted By casca
1750 White Scars

HQ:
Khan on bike 205

Command squad on bikes 385
4x SS, 2x TH, 2x PW 2x plasma guns
...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-09-10, 01:06 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,087
Posted By casca
i would go with a power fist over the hellfire...

i would go with a power fist over the hellfire rounds. power fist on the sergeant in the squad instead of wounding on 2+

other then that for 500 points i like the list.

the other thought i had...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-07-10, 10:40 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 932
Posted By casca
if you were to dump the HK missiles, as well as...

if you were to dump the HK missiles, as well as the combi-melta on the captain, you could switch the captain over to a power weapon...(5 attacks on the charge instead of 4, and you could also have 50...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-06-10, 07:55 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 415
Posted By casca
i recommend taking at least one TH, or powerfist...

i recommend taking at least one TH, or powerfist in your command squad for that one time when you decide to take out a walker, or something tough... a talos... it also allows for the insta kill... ...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-06-10, 02:00 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 394
Posted By casca
he's like a librarian, but he just flat out...

he's like a librarian, but he just flat out cancels out psychic powers on a roll of a 4+, and they have access to a whole different set of powers.

and as much as i like librarians in with...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-05-10, 02:10 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 374
Posted By casca
GK, are only rumored to be coming out on the...

GK, are only rumored to be coming out on the interwebs lol... they have not released any word on a company as to when they will be redoing them..

and please oh please don't say that they will...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-03-10, 02:52 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 961
Posted By casca
telion is outstanding for his points. as he gives...

telion is outstanding for his points. as he gives his whole squad stealth. in a 10 man squad the cloaks cost 30p points, plus you get all of his little bonus'
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-03-10, 03:51 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 628
Posted By casca
sounds like a blast. let us know how it goes......

sounds like a blast. let us know how it goes... and i want to hear how some play testing goes for it...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-02-10, 12:02 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 396
Posted By casca
your points values are way off right, i would...

your points values are way off right, i would double check all of your point values again in the codex.

khan on a bike is 205

a librarian cannot be on a bike and have a storm shield... if you...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-01-10, 02:00 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 628
Posted By casca
your necron list is nice, they wont have quite...

your necron list is nice, they wont have quite the staying power that the 2x20 will, but i think that they will still work very effectively so long as you keep all of your necrons clumped up near...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   12-01-10, 03:18 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 628
Posted By casca
when it comes to who has the better staying power...

when it comes to who has the better staying power the necon player has way more staying power with his WBB rolls... that being said, i would suggest running a max squad of warriors with the res orb...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-29-10, 04:38 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,009
Posted By casca
um... chapter master is WS6... captain is WS6......

um... chapter master is WS6... captain is WS6... you get nothing except the orbital bombardment from the master...

meaning you are paying 25 points for a orbital bombardment... in 500 points it is...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-27-10, 03:28 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 501
Posted By casca
the devastators as you have them are a waste of...

the devastators as you have them are a waste of points you would be much better off increasing the squad size. you should have at least a 1-1 ratio of heavy weapons to normal marines when you you...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-27-10, 03:17 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 561
Posted By casca
the problem with both of your lists is that the...

the problem with both of your lists is that the dark angels librarians have their own psychic powers... they don't have the codex marine powers available to them...

nor can dark angels take...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-27-10, 03:04 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 561
Posted By casca
one thing to remember is that both you and your...

one thing to remember is that both you and your space wolf ally have the two best scout units of all the space marines.

what weapons are on your scouts?

i don't recommend taking either...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-27-10, 02:37 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,381
Posted By casca
where the relic blade captain is good, khan is...

where the relic blade captain is good, khan is better...

khan gets furious charge, so he ends up at st5, I6 on the charge... 3 attacks base, 2 close combat weapons, and +1 for charging gives him 5...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-26-10, 11:31 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,381
Posted By casca
have you thought about upgrading your captain to...

have you thought about upgrading your captain to Khan? he is much more assault oriented, and he buff's the rest of the squad that he is with.

personally i prefer to run a librarian with my...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-24-10, 02:58 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 456
Posted By casca
you could also drop the predator 95 points, as...

you could also drop the predator 95 points, as well as squeeze 5 points out else where and get a thunderfire cannon. this would allow you to give telion and his scouts even better cover, as well as...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-24-10, 05:13 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,459
Posted By casca
if you are trying for strict anti-tank duties,...

if you are trying for strict anti-tank duties, you are best off with a mobile multimelta... but lascannons work great as well. MM dont work on every single tank in the 40k universe, but remember that...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-24-10, 05:07 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 657
Posted By casca
my only thought is drop one of your dreads for a...

my only thought is drop one of your dreads for a second vindy... or if you were willing to part ways with both of your thunderfire cannons, you could dump both of them, as well as the HF's off all 3...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-24-10, 04:55 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,009
Posted By casca
telion is a big bonus for his squad in 500...

telion is a big bonus for his squad in 500 points. and the librarian is going to be your most able HQ choice for 500.

my own person 500 point army list is

Khan on bike 205

bike squad, 4x...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-24-10, 04:45 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 418
Posted By casca
as far as librarian powers you might go with GoI,...

as far as librarian powers you might go with GoI, and avenger... and then attempt to get him within range of the enemy and put out some flame templates.

so this tournament is going to come down...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   11-23-10, 01:46 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 771
Posted By casca
it's not just the bolster defenses, it's also the...

it's not just the bolster defenses, it's also the stealth that telion brings to the squad. (even if they are combat squaded)

ultra how is your 3k bike army coming by the way?
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