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Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   10-18-15, 01:32 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 4,237
Posted By refractory
Wtf. Im never getting RG models at this...

Wtf.


Im never getting RG models at this rate, 17 new dreds, 34 knights, 4 epic books, still no corax; maddening. Screw priceless.
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   05-19-15, 05:27 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 14,471
Posted By refractory
that sir is awesome! bravo. its still...

that sir is awesome! bravo.


its still isnt as cool as that chaos titan taking a drop pod to the dome, Its my favorite part of any of the displays ive seen so far.... the "black hawk down"...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   01-24-15, 08:31 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 5,002
Posted By refractory
yep, 30k is all that matters... and its...

yep, 30k is all that matters...


and its awesome.
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   01-05-15, 05:19 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 5,002
Posted By refractory
I noticed them when this was posted, if you look...

I noticed them when this was posted, if you look closely you can see the edge of another ammo can. so maybe 2 heavy bolters, or a twinlinked one....

my guess would be twinlinked auto cannon (same...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   04-29-14, 04:47 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 515
Posted By refractory
get rid the drop pod on the devastator squad, and...

get rid the drop pod on the devastator squad, and the combi melta on the scout squad, and add 5 marines to a tactial squad. leave this tactical squad in reserve.

now if we can trim another 70...
Forum: General 40k   04-29-14, 04:23 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,075
Posted By refractory
^ google a "MRAP". its a US armoured fighting...

^ google a "MRAP". its a US armoured fighting vehicle, it speaks for itself, as to where the idea for the taurox came from. I like to call the TS, "Codex Green Berets". if you clip the end of the las...
Forum: General 40k   04-29-14, 03:50 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 393
Posted By refractory
I play several space marine armies, always have,...

I play several space marine armies, always have, always will. IMO, no one spams speeders better than DA. I run a unit of 3-5(depending on size of game) with TML, HB. I run them with a RW darkshroud,...
Forum: Trading Area   12-21-13, 10:37 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 613
Posted By refractory
Still looking

Still looking
Forum: Modelling and Painting   07-13-13, 09:13 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 544
Posted By refractory
the compressor, generally an airbrush company...

the compressor, generally an airbrush company doesn't make their own compressor, and when they do, they still use the same regulators. it looks like Badger does make their own compressors, but the...
Forum: Modelling and Painting   07-12-13, 06:29 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 544
Posted By refractory
save your self some trouble next time and install...

save your self some trouble next time and install some of these, and leave it on the floor. also, most compressor parts are universal, so you need to find the true manufacturer of the "pump", more...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   07-08-13, 06:09 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 7,871
Posted By refractory
couldn't have said it better myself, so I didn't....

couldn't have said it better myself, so I didn't.

RG to me, are the true "spec-ops" type army of the SM chapters. they adorn coloring to their environment, they use the cover of darkness/shadows,...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   07-08-13, 03:10 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 7,871
Posted By refractory
if I were to speculate on a RG supplement I would...

if I were to speculate on a RG supplement I would guess something like this...

*army has stealth and/or infiltration : Scouts, Assault, Tactical, and Veterans

*more Scout type options or...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   04-06-13, 03:58 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,774
Posted By refractory
that is sick!

that is sick!
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   04-02-13, 02:51 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,196
Posted By refractory
This is covered in the Forge World FAQ for the...

This is covered in the Forge World FAQ for the book, to shorten: its says no, but yes if your opponent will allow it, but it also says that it will be quite unfair...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   04-01-13, 08:42 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,196
Posted By refractory
+1 about the spartan IMO, you should change...

+1 about the spartan

IMO, you should change one of the tactical squads out for an assault squad without packs, and pick up as many missle launchers as you can... rad missle you can shoot and...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   04-01-13, 03:29 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,196
Posted By refractory
drop 2 of the tactical squads for 10 man tactical...

drop 2 of the tactical squads for 10 man tactical support squads, and spend the points on volkite calivers, get the extra points from the predators by dropping the heavy conversion beamers, predator...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   03-29-13, 08:18 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,045
Posted By refractory
the difference of the turbo laser and the...

the difference of the turbo laser and the thunderhawk cannon?
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   03-29-13, 06:06 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,045
Posted By refractory
* ^ damn ninja's As far as i can tell,...

* ^ damn ninja's


As far as i can tell, just briefly looking over that pic and ones on forge world's site, that
IMO its not a plastic kit, it's a resin forge world model. the details are just to...
Forum: Modelling and Painting   04-26-12, 05:44 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 17,310
Posted By refractory
use purple power, or castrol's "super clean"...

use purple power, or castrol's "super clean" (super clean is better for plastics) you'll have to scrub them or high pressure spray them to get it off but it will break down the paint. i just used...
Forum: Modelling and Painting   04-17-12, 07:39 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 3,701
Posted By refractory
your right, in just game color vallejo has less...

your right, in just game color vallejo has less colors, i just included all of their lines due to my use of them for other games as well. (the only paints you should buy if you play FOW)

our shop...
Forum: Modelling and Painting   04-16-12, 06:34 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 3,701
Posted By refractory
i disagree with this statement, so ill add my...

i disagree with this statement, so ill add my opinion.

just to add, don't believe everything you hear/read. vallejo has about 4 times the colors of any paint on the market, its the highest quality...
Forum: Trading Area   04-16-12, 06:16 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 613
Posted By refractory
[W] forgeworld rhino armour

looking for forgeworld rhino armour, preferably the older spaced armour, also looking for forgewold dozer blades, repressor bits, and the newer reinforced armour bits.
Forum: Modelling and Painting   04-09-12, 09:33 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 2,937
Posted By refractory
assemble everything but the shoulder pads, keep...

assemble everything but the shoulder pads, keep them seperate and on the sprue. prime the figures in chaos black, drybursh chaos black, wash with a sepia, highlight the edges with codex grey. prime...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-22-12, 04:56 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,747
Posted By refractory
yes, and no... he old long fangs box is not...

yes, and no... he old long fangs box is not available any more, the space wolves kit is used to make them now, so you buy a devastator squad and the space wolves squad, and mix and match...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-21-12, 11:14 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,747
Posted By refractory
i was thinking the same thing, can't ever have to...

i was thinking the same thing, can't ever have to many melta's




you mean saga of the bear, although another very good observation, he already going to have plenty of attacks, plus everyone...
Forum: Modelling and Painting   12-06-09, 04:46 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,330
Posted By refractory
^ the pattern of the U.S. Army. i did the...

^ the pattern of the U.S. Army.

i did the USMC woodland pattern on some of my scouts, i found it was easier to "group" the color blocks over trying to paint individual squares. ill see if i cant...
Forum: 40k Rules Discussion   07-28-09, 04:46 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,249
Posted By refractory
it does state that when shooting at a squadron of...

it does state that when shooting at a squadron of vehicles you use the facing AV of the closest vehicle. so to me i would take this as good general info for the cover save as well, i.e. useing the...
Forum: 40k Rules Discussion   07-07-09, 01:40 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,033
Posted By refractory
actually they can and do. the leman russ states...

actually they can and do. the leman russ states that, it may be fitted with any of the vehicle upgrades found in the SM armoury. it may not take vehicle upgrades from codex: IG.

and then look at...
Forum: 40k Rules Discussion   07-06-09, 10:55 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,033
Posted By refractory
thats how i saw it as well, and the reason i'm...

thats how i saw it as well, and the reason i'm asking is because i'm running wolves for ard' boyz, and i've got around 80 pts that i can use somewere, and personally don't wont to give up another...
Forum: 40k Rules Discussion   07-06-09, 05:52 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,033
Posted By refractory
space wolves and chronus

quick question, can a space wolves leman russ take sgt. chronus?

and if not, can you point me to were i might find this answer myself.
Forum: Modelling and Painting   06-19-09, 12:54 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 5,477
Posted By refractory
nice... im doing the same thing right now but...

nice... im doing the same thing right now but with catachans.
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   06-16-09, 01:08 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,912
Posted By refractory
awesome I.G. is on there now.... but still no Red...

awesome I.G. is on there now.... but still no Red Scorpions.


Thanks for the find though.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   06-12-09, 02:04 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 756
Posted By refractory
never thought about that, and honestly just...

never thought about that, and honestly just overlooked it. i don't have a codex in front of me but i'm pretty sure it says the entire army, and i played it like that; just overlooked the part about...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   06-11-09, 07:06 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 415
Posted By refractory
i've never liked the idea of infiltrating...

i've never liked the idea of infiltrating termies, just for the fact that your either hoping there going to stand through 1 round of shooting, or there going to get a 6 for their fleet roll. quite a...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   06-11-09, 06:52 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 756
Posted By refractory
i run mine in a very 1st turn assault type of...

i run mine in a very 1st turn assault type of army.

i take ccw scouts, and infiltrate them, that gives them 6 scout, 6 move, min of 1 fleet, and 6 assault. thats 19 total, you infiltrate at 18, so...
Forum: 40k Tactics   06-10-09, 04:05 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,781
Posted By refractory
when i had my daemon army i ran no less than 3...

when i had my daemon army i ran no less than 3 soul grinders. i would drop 2 on the first turn, and leave one for the other player to worry about. but then i also ran big HQ's as well.

(most...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   05-21-09, 04:51 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 719
Posted By refractory
thats true too. have you given up on the...

thats true too.

have you given up on the bike army?

and if you need some stuff to proxy this let me know i've got most of it.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   05-21-09, 04:35 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 719
Posted By refractory
haha you know me man. as far as the MLs in...

haha you know me man.

as far as the MLs in the tac squads i've found i honestly dont ever use them; as the squad is never close enough. not to mention i have that bad habbit of trying to be too...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   05-21-09, 03:06 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 719
Posted By refractory
i know were you can purchase a darn good start...

i know were you can purchase a darn good start for this list at...


hit point hobbies and there employee's are the shit :grin:
Forum: 40k Tactics   04-24-09, 04:49 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 11,765
Posted By refractory
why? aside from the whole squad having a power...

why? aside from the whole squad having a power weapon/ fist there no better. personally I've had way better luck with the lotd.
Forum: General 40k   04-20-09, 10:42 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 4,106
Posted By refractory
i was wondering why that hadn't been brought up...

i was wondering why that hadn't been brought up yet; as i put him an a land raider. most of the weapons that get shot at a land raider have a higher chance of a glance than a pen. and that means...
Forum: 40k Tactics   04-20-09, 03:10 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 11,765
Posted By refractory
i play them. i like them personally because i can...

i play them. i like them personally because i can tie a demon prince or abbadon (sp) up in close combat, and they last for ever with that 3+ inv. also there have veteran stats so comparing them to a...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   01-29-09, 03:29 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,246
Posted By refractory
holy hell will GW or FW ever release me some...

holy hell will GW or FW ever release me some raven guard shoulder pads.

so irritating.
Forum: 40k Fluff   01-19-09, 05:44 AM
Replies: 128
Views: 9,732
Posted By refractory
The Mighty Corax. 6. The Raven's Talons 5....

The Mighty Corax.

6. The Raven's Talons
5. Ravenspire
4. Deliverance (the planet not the movie)
3. Mutants
2. The Ravenguard
1. He lead a rebellion in his youth.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-16-09, 03:28 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 397
Posted By refractory
i got you now... i thought you ment to put Shrike...

i got you now... i thought you ment to put Shrike on a bike... although the assault marines would be more effective i think... extra attacks anyway.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-16-09, 02:08 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 397
Posted By refractory
he cant ride a bike.... he has a jump pack that...

he cant ride a bike.... he has a jump pack that can't be removed. i useually put him with one of the assault squads and infiltrate them so there assaulting on the frist turn.

with the old codex i...
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-16-09, 01:38 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 397
Posted By refractory
i agree that with Shrike, a unit with Khan would...

i agree that with Shrike, a unit with Khan would be awsome; but only in a larger list. i perosnally think that over priced HQ units fail far to often to justify them in 1500pt. lists.
Forum: Space Marine Army Lists   01-16-09, 12:52 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 397
Posted By refractory
1500 Ravenguard

I've been running this list for a while now and found it to be very competitive and seeing another on here earlier i figured I'd post this one up.

HQ:

Capt. Shrike

TROOPS:

Tac. Sq. x10...
Forum: 40k Fluff   12-04-08, 10:46 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,097
Posted By refractory
the Raven Guard had the mutants that Corax had...

the Raven Guard had the mutants that Corax had made through cloning; they were extremely fierce and they were filled with a severe rage; they were also not smart at all.

and like said above the...
Forum: Wargaming News and 40k Rumors   12-04-08, 10:37 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 30,391
Posted By refractory
hey now, us daemon players would resent that.

hey now, us daemon players would resent that.
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