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Okay so I'm building a large aircraft model for 40k. It's going to count as a Thunderbolt when used in a game. Now, here's my question: What size base do I put the fraker on? The GW flight base is just too short for my preferences so I want something in the 6"-12" height range. But then that means I need a proportionately large and wide base to support the thing. When completed this model will be about the same size as the Maurader model from Forge World, so if you've seen one of those, it's a good indicator of size of the model I'm working on.

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I think to be fair in games terms you have to use the GW base wouldn't you? If you're too high you'd have an unfair LOS advantage?
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I didnt think that flyers bases had much in the way of interaction with the game as you can't assault them and you measure from the guns - so sticking it on a huge stick would be more of a disadvantage to you?
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I think to be fair in games terms you have to use the GW base wouldn't you? If you're too high you'd have an unfair LOS advantage?
Fair point, except that flyers can never claim to be behind cover and LOS is drawn to the base of the flyer regardless of any other factors.

And when I say the GW base is too short, I mean imagine a B-29 coming in at 50 feet off the ground. I would literally need to say "Hey clear 1'x1' of the board for my model" if I use the GW base.

Plus since there's practically no one around here that plays 40k let alone any kind of game large enough to make using this fighter worth it... yeah. Game effects are not a concern for it.

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Fair point, except that flyers can never claim to be behind cover and LOS is drawn to the base of the flyer regardless of any other factors.

And when I say the GW base is too short, I mean imagine a B-29 coming in at 50 feet off the ground. I would literally need to say "Hey clear 1'x1' of the board for my model" if I use the GW base.

Plus since there's practically no one around here that plays 40k let alone any kind of game large enough to make using this fighter worth it... yeah. Game effects are not a concern for it.
I guessing a Thunderbolt would be classed as a skimmer in the game so line of sight is drawn from the weapon mount so a higher base is going to allow you to see over stuff you shouldn't, also the vehicle can be assaulted by base contacting the base or the hull so that could cause problems with a big base.

Of course if your not using it in a game then make the thing as big as you like. The main issue would be stability so you'd want the base to be at least as wide as it is high, unless you go for a tripod arrangement in which case you want each leg to be at 60 degrees.

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I guessing a Thunderbolt would be classed as a skimmer in the game so line of sight is drawn from the weapon mount so a higher base is going to allow you to see over stuff you shouldn't, also the vehicle can be assaulted by base contacting the base or the hull so that could cause problems with a big base.

Of course if your not using it in a game then make the thing as big as you like. The main issue would be stability so you'd want the base to be at least as wide as it is high, unless you go for a tripod arrangement in which case you want each leg to be at 60 degrees.

nooo the thunderbolt is classified as a flyer. Not a skimmer. If anyone wants to use it as a skimmer I'm going to look at them very funny.

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I can't find flyer in the rulebook where are they mentioned ?
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I can't find flyer in the rulebook where are they mentioned ?
Apocalypse rule book. Page 94.

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ah that would explain it then, I don't have that one, I thought you were using it in vanilla 40k
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ah that would explain it then, I don't have that one, I thought you were using it in vanilla 40k
nah. I mean I suppose I could use it plain 40k... but for the cost and not using it as a flyer... that'd be a painful sacrafice. Kinda like taking a speeder and using it as jump infantry.

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