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post #171 of 385 (permalink) Old 11-05-17, 07:48 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the reply

I've decided to make two versions with quick change interchangeable parts; an Emperor Invictus and a Warmonger (Shown above) with all that solid shoulder pads etc.....

Can't Get No......

Satisfaction.

On rethinking this project I find I was in error putting Cathedral parts in what ostensibly was the engineering area. We need some techie looking cryptic machinery instead of monastic facades

https://i.imgur.com/qrgPqfi.jpg


So out with the old and in with the new.

https://i.imgur.com/mDWpKKx.jpg


This may work out and it ties the overhead yoke to the chest plate structures neatly.

https://i.imgur.com/V3pMz2a.jpg


I may also have room for a maintenance catwalk (I do like catwalks)

https://i.imgur.com/KjZFQPV.jpg


This design will give me more creative options when I tie in the rear exhaust structures as well.
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3D Analog Modeling:

I love this stuff. This grid material is so relatively cheap and so versatile that it is rapidly becoming my basic building platform.

https://i.imgur.com/jugJgeE.jpg


Anyway I shall be using these angled constitutions for the 3 floors of engineering so I am considering gluing them in place.

https://i.imgur.com/Yo4AcLp.jpg


The positioning of these panels is just about perfect as if the Deus Mechanicus were guiding my hand.............

https://i.imgur.com/uohMq6H.jpg


I now can reconsider adding the spurious hydraulic cylinders after all; Omnissiah be praised.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg


Now I just have to rationalize it's purpose????
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Thanks for the replies.....

Back On Track:

Things are looking up now that I am back on track.

Below we se the first of eight trunnion mounts in place ready to receive the cylinders and piston rod ends with what I hope will be sufficiently robust to stand the torque to which they will be subjected (In the real world).
https://i.imgur.com/zpFncXW.jpg


Having worked around commercial aircraft for a good portion of my adult life one of the things I find in error about many of these Titan scrachbuilds is the lack of appreciating the forces imposed on the hydraulic actuators.....

https://i.imgur.com/egRe4Wo.jpg


The Boeing 747 in particular with it's four robust main landing gear filled me with awe on first seeing the tremendous machined components carved out of titanium ingots with their almost organic contours. The structures mimicking some antediluvian monster's skeleton.
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Now I just have to rationalize it's purpose????
You could say that it is an inertial dampener of some sort, to offset the massive weight of the weapon system

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Obsessive Compulsive Roll:

"You snooze you lose." as the saying goes. Last night while watching youtube and reading science articles I lost myself in autonomic reflex mode. Low and behold this morning I awoke to find my output was far greater than I thought.

https://i.imgur.com/VyhVIgu.jpg


Apparently I quadrupled my work in a night doing what would ostensibly 'by rote.' My mother was capable of this absentminded production as well. She could knit an afghan blanket whilst watching TV and be completely oblivious to the process.

Anyway the result seen here is a small portion of the entire Titan but eventually would have had to have been done and I'm glad it is but it's unnerving to have no memory of the process.

https://i.imgur.com/84E7pMe.jpg


Elves Maybe? Umpa-Lumpas?
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I have had that auto pilot moment before myself, but it happened when I was driving which was scary! Those pieces look really well my friend, the behemoth grows

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Weapons Mount Detail; Now It Can Be Explained:

Now that I have the Engineering levels side walls complete I can proceed with the yoke mounts with the hydraulic cylinder attach points.

https://i.imgur.com/uiO8LM0.jpg


I am missing something on the detail as it appears the attach points have a circular rack and pinion system that allows the weapons to rotate as the yoke arm is raised and lowered. This came to me last night as I studied the drawing for the umpteenth time where it all came clear and the hydraulic system while seemingly unnecessary does have a purpose.

https://i.imgur.com/oclY04e.jpg


Hidden beneath the deck above the yoke must have an second hinge point that allows it to be raised and lowered by the hydraulic cylinders. The necessity for which or what ever reason I cannot fathom but it does explain much of the detail in the 3D image.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg


Elevating and lowering the main weapons say a few meters cannot make that much difference when they are mounted 30 to 40 meters off the ground to my mind but the artist included it in his design and so shall I but I'll eschew the capacity of movement on my model.

It does make for some interesting detail and detail is what 'tis all about when you come down to it. :D
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SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform;

As we approach the main armament mount ( A bit earlier than I intended. It would be a good idea to make sure the the 'guns' clear the hip joints.) there has been some speculation as to the functionality of the yoke arm hydraulic system.

I did some research into 'SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform' and found some interesting tidbits.

First of all the SARP appears to be a linear system i.e. in line with the gun barrel

Linear Elevation/Stabilization Drive:


so this eliminates the hydraulics as a gyroscopic stabilizer as the arm is perpendicular to the barrels besides raising the whole arm is much too massive an undertaking for something as sensitive as ground affect stablization. The hydraulics of that size could not respond quick enough.

Second there has been some criticism of the trunnion mount of the main gun. Accidentally or purposefully the author's (Joazzz) trunnion mount works well with the stabilizer system:



albeit sufficiently built up to Emperor Titan scale.
and so we're back to the intended purpose of the Hydraulic actuated arm.

I have really got to get a life. :D
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A week Of Detailing:

A week of detailing and while gratifying that so much was accomplished now that it is all back together it doesn't seem like all that much.

This first image shows the Yoke detail where the hydraulics will mount on the arm extenders.

https://i.imgur.com/voFYSFG.jpg


Pretty much the same shot from a lower angle.

https://i.imgur.com/QJnu0Rn.jpg


A quarter view showing the front yoke arm detail that required so much time for the actual amount of dressing up required.

https://i.imgur.com/4tELqEZ.jpg


A 3/4 view of the left interior to show where the three maintenance/engineering decks will be and the reactor deck. I haven't worked that out yet.

https://i.imgur.com/JqiMoam.jpg


Finally a right 3/4 view showing off the weapon arm rack gear to it's best advantage and the sloppiness of my mancave/workshop.

https://i.imgur.com/hEkrwRJ.jpg


Time for a celebratory cognac and coffee.
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Super stuff old boy! And please don't get a life, or if so, do it part time, we would miss your creations and musings far too much!

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