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post #91 of 385 (permalink) Old 07-31-17, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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Blackadder's Instant Paint Job:

So I'm watching these Youtube videos how to paint Skitarii and they are quite involved what with the spray painting with grey primer and then gunmetal silver and washes etc. A marvel of tenacity and patience........

http://i.imgur.com/Uo7S4mn.jpg


and I look at my Warlord and Thunderhawk and to my unpracticed eye I see very little difference between all that work and the relatively simple Flat Black Primer and rubbed in Graphite powder.

http://i.imgur.com/EKNFJhS.jpg


So I'm going to share my simple yet effective and cost effect method of acheiving the same effect with a tenth the effort.

http://i.imgur.com/FrGGzAu.jpg


First I spray paint all the figures with ElCheapo Walmart brand $0.99 cents a can Flat Black Primer.

http://i.imgur.com/JDEw8ah.jpg


Just one light coat and inspect out of doors in bright sunlight to make sure all the areas are covered.

And let dry overnight.

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Adeptus Mechanicus Update:

Just to keep you apprised of my lack of progress in a physical sense at least. I have found why I have hit a wall design wise and I shall be making corrections this weekend. Most of my problem was two dimensional thinking.

On the painting front I have cranked up the old airbrush because these Skitarii figures are too finely detailed for painting with a brush. Even the youtube tutorials with so-called pro-painters show heavy brushstrokes that are unacceptable to me.

http://i.imgur.com/bGuhu71.jpg


I began with the Dune Crawler which was not my fav anyway so I used it to practice on. It is not coming out to badly but I think the Airbrush can do better.

http://i.imgur.com/ghaQ0sY.jpg


I managed to find a Belisarius Cawl on ebay unencumbered by the other two models in the kit which I also have no interest in and spent Saturday evening assembling it. It is ans extremely delicate model full of threadlike plastic parts and I have my doubts of it's survivability on a game board

http://i.imgur.com/IqVmXq4.jpg


Fortunately my Belisarius Will be a display companion piece for my Emperor Titan and reside in the completed interior Command center utterly safe from the vicissitudes of beer swilling 40K combatants. :D

Yet perhaps not from Martini Swilling judgmental old farts. ;)

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Here's a question for all you painting buffs and I've yet to find it satisfactorily explained.

In the video below the author begins at the 2:20 two minute 20 second mark to "Shade" the the model with 3 parts Vallejo brown ink and 1 part Vallejo Black ink Now I've got dozens of bottles of shades, washes, glazes and nuln oil (Also a Shade and what I am most use to using with adequate results...........)


Now, Before I go and buy yet more of these vile little vials.............

What I want to know is since the author is indiscriminately using the words "Shade," "Wash," "ink," interchangeably; what is he on about and what could be substituted for this so called "Ink" mix.

I'm sure a lot of tyros such as myself would like a succinct explanation.

Here's your chance to shine and have the Blackadder in your debt.:D

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Don't Give Up Your Day Job Blackadder

I'm not finished with these by a long shot but I'm going to display them anyway because each of you deserve a good laugh now and again.

The Ironstrider seems a waste of money for me as there is little use for him in the interior of the Titan. That and the Dune Crawler are just for so much practice in painting my Belisarius Cawl and Tech Priest Dominus.

http://i.imgur.com/4chaTYv.jpg


I also want to show how I store my miniatures whilst painting and in storage. These two and a half dozen egg cartons are ideal for your 28 MM soldiers even with bases.

http://i.imgur.com/BoVHwu2.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/sBy72ga.jpg


The Dune Crawler is the furthest along in the painting process and it looks like I need a second coat on the gold. I also have to wash off some of the Nuln Oil on the hull.

http://i.imgur.com/8FcVLuP.jpg


Tech Priest Dominus is the real reason for this post and I finally got the nerve up to tackle this bad boy this morning.

I promise I'll get back to the Titan by tomorrow. I've got some new Ideas and a whole new perspective on how to proceed with the front elevation.
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Here's a question for all you painting buffs and I've yet to find it satisfactorily explained.

In the video below the author begins at the 2:20 two minute 20 second mark to "Shade" the the model with 3 parts Vallejo brown ink and 1 part Vallejo Black ink Now I've got dozens of bottles of shades, washes, glazes and nuln oil (Also a Shade and what I am most use to using with adequate results...........)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVVhWJhLbs

Now, Before I go and buy yet more of these vile little vials.............

What I want to know is since the author is indiscriminately using the words "Shade," "Wash," "ink," interchangeably; what is he on about and what could be substituted for this so called "Ink" mix.

I'm sure a lot of tyros such as myself would like a succinct explanation.

Here's your chance to shine and have the Blackadder in your debt.:D
To the best of my albeit limited knowledge a wash and a shade are the same thing just different names, a thin medium with little pigment and does not effect the overall colour you wash/shade over too much, and an ink is a thin medium with uber pigment and changes the colour it goes over quite a bit. I'm sure the proper paint beards on Heresy can verify or correct this

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Here's a question for all you painting buffs and I've yet to find it satisfactorily explained.

In the video below the author begins at the 2:20 two minute 20 second mark to "Shade" the the model with 3 parts Vallejo brown ink and 1 part Vallejo Black ink Now I've got dozens of bottles of shades, washes, glazes and nuln oil (Also a Shade and what I am most use to using with adequate results...........)

What I want to know is since the author is indiscriminately using the words "Shade," "Wash," "ink," interchangeably; what is he on about and what could be substituted for this so called "Ink" mix.

I'm sure a lot of tyros such as myself would like a succinct explanation.

Here's your chance to shine and have the Blackadder in your debt.:D
Okay, lemme take a stab at it.

Inks are effectively your basic coloring agent. They're... well, inks. They're intensely colored, translucent, and (usually) dry glossy.

When painting minis, washing - "Shade" being the new term for "Wash", these are the same - and glazing are the two main uses for them, and GW offers premixed formulas that contain additives to aid in those uses.

Glazes are like somewhat dilute inks with a glazing acrylic medium thrown in, applied generally to evenly tint a surface, changing the hue of underlying paint or increasing color saturation. Usually used for vibrancy. NB: Mixing an ink with some Lahmian Medium gets you something akin to a Glaze, which can give you vibrant and interesting results.

Washes contain another acrylic medium and a surface active agent (surfactant), which causes them to pool more deeply in recesses, resulting in a shading effect (due to the higher volume of pigment deposited).


To get about the same result for shading as in the video you linked, just use the GW shades (Mix as required. It's unlikely he'll be using an ink to shade in a color that GW doesn't offer as one. You can add a bit of water to lighten things if needed). The additives mean you'll actually have an easier time controlling where the color goes than he does


EDIT: Whoops, ninjad by Old Man78...
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Wow!

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Finely Divided Aluminum Powder:

Once again I am defying conventional wisdom and going my own way. I've seen many Belisarius Cawls on line and all with painted gun metal appurtenances and they seem to lack the depth I am seeking.

Below are my Tech Priest and Bel.. Cawl in their base painted stage using Vallejo Model Air Base Grey #71 .097 and a red of my own concoction of Model Air Signal Red #71 .070 and Game Color Royal Purple #16 which I mixed myself a drop at a time but somewhere around a ten to one ration.

http://i.imgur.com/bzpYCfM.jpg


Only later I discovered I had Mephiston Red in my inventory. Gah!

Note if you will the diminutive size of this $41 dollar model and marvel at how little your money is actually worth.

http://i.imgur.com/68uutJL.jpg


Back to the model; I applied finely divided aluminum powder to the highly ornamented staff with surprisingly satisfactory results and shall be using this where'er I can on these models

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As Promised, a whole new look for the Titan; Hanging buttresses or knees if you prefer. My quandary was to separate myself from my previous Warlord and open a new more airy Titan with weight saving upper hamper but still have the massive structure we have come to expect from a Emperor Titan.

http://i.imgur.com/7LlNmWC.jpg


With hope these will work into the equation.

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