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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 11-23-15, 03:10 PM Thread Starter
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So I caved and kept the Betrayl at Calth set and after much back and forth I decided to go Salamanders. Also, I happen to be reading Vulkan Lives currently which probably guided my decision a little. Also, fire and dragons, how can you not like that icongraphy.
So with that I decided to start with the Preator and the Chaplin. (Names to come later on.)

So put these two kind of together.

The Preator's front and middle of the torso, and the back and top armor were put together, while the Chaplin's backpack/cape pieces and the front and middle of the Chaplin.

Next I primed them white, didn't do black as I was trying to get a brighter emerald green in the end.


Followed by going over them with a couple of layers of Vallejo Model Air Dark Green. To get a nice smooth green I found two coats worked perfectly. Also, found this seemed to completely nullify the fact that I used white for the priming. Except of course, white primer is easier to find and fairly cheap. Anyways.


This was the part that I kind of feared doing because I haven't done this really well in the past. However, just going ahead and doing this it came out pretty well. Used the Vallejo Escorpina Green very carefully and as lightly as possible.


So here they are all greened up and a little bit of blue tac to hold them together for the picture.



Now the capes are going to have the flame effect over coals on the inside. While I'm undecided if I should do that on the outside of the capes. I've got some upgrade pieces from Forge World (Mark III shoulders, a set of heads and torsos for to scatter through the squads) and a few pieces from Spellcrow.
The only other thing I'm undecided on is the bases. I was considering doing something like the black wastes of Istvaan V or doing something with a fiery effect under some Martian Ironearth. Tying them back to my Forgeworld.

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I shall watch this thread with great interest.....



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Flame cape's are airbrushed. I'll be defining the flame effect more through painting by hand.


Really happy with how the effect looks. Also, kind of surprised how much is of the cape is actually showing around the figure. As for the backs of the capes, the Preator's will be white and I haven't decided on the Chaplin's, yet.

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Hey man, it's great to see that you've started your own PLOG! I will follow it with great interest

Now, in regards to your models and airbrushing adventure, you are off to a great start! If you want, I would give a few suggestions to give them some more life, but I'm sure you've got plenty of plans so just tell me to shut up if you've already thought of it

The first is regarding depth of the miniatures - I would definitely look into oilwashing with Burnt Umber. Airbrushing is a great tool, but for that great depth you will need a shade of some sort. For more realistic shading, I would go with oilwashing when doing cloaks and that sorts of thing, as it behaves differently than a normal shade when it comes to flat surfaces - Essentially it doesn't dry in pools the same way, so you can get great results with machines and cloaks, if you dare venture into it.

If you want I can give you some tips, just let me know.

Secondly, the capes look great! You've really hit a nice flame transition and it's one of the tougher one to get right, believe me. I can see, however, that the edge of the termie HQ is still green, most likely from masking. Just a little sidemark.

Have you considered doing a light brown airbrushing on the inside of the cloak, to make it seem more shadowy, as it is away from the light?

You're off to a good start, so keep it coming man!
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Those cloaks are a great start! Looking good mate


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@Nordicus Thank you for your praise. You heretical traitor.
I would like any tips on airbrushing that you could give. Tips are welcome.

So, earlier did some more to these two. The capes got more flame definition to them. I'm actually pretty surprised at how they turned out. Mainly used Dorn Yellow, watered down a bit, to create the whiteish flame that added more proper definition to it. Along with a little watered down Mephiston Red to bring out some of the red in the middle.


Additionally, I added flames, because Salamanders, to various parts of the armor. Doing to much, I felt, would take away from the armor.
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Here's the Chaplin, the eyes I might leave the unintentional fire effect over the eyelenses there. After looking at the pictures I kind of like it.
Now I did more on the Preator.

The gold has been lightly washed with Reikland and I'm plannig on going over it with Auric to brighten it up. So as for the cloaks I'm going to be doing the Preator's white and I think the Chaplin's will be a light grey. So with Vulkan's Sons having ebony skin, any good tips for that skin tone?

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Can't believe I missed a new Plog from you dude.

Got to admit first pic I was sceptical of those capes since they looked more like a national flag than flame, but with what you have added to them in the future pictures they're superb.

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Jeez, those cloaks are getting even better mate!


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Got to admit first pic I was sceptical of those capes since they looked more like a national flag than flame
That's it! Every time you move one of these units on the table you have say "Kompanie, Marsch! Eins, Zwei! Eins, Zwei!"


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Finally decided on how I'm basing the Salamanders. Decided to go with the wastes of Istvaan V. So to simulate that I've taken cork that I've carved down to show more stable rocky areas. I've applied eggshell to the to give it a kind of shale effect to break up the rocky effect from the cork.

I just realised that the 3rd picture is the final stage. Anyways, primed black. Followed by dry brushed with a light grey, washed with Nulin Oil and Earthshade. Then another dry brushing.
For all the rest, I'll probably be using PVA glue and dump the cork shavings and broken eggshells. Along with some larger cork bits for larger rocks.

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Finally finished the Preator and Chaplin. Names to come eventually.
Preator

Chaplin

They are basically done. Deciding if I want to do any weathering, (hesitation due to not having really done any before and I don't want to mess them up). Actually rather pleased with how they turned out in the end. Going to go over the XVIII and Dragonheads a few more times with the microsol to even them out. I know its not showing on the pic but I can still see the clear around the Dragonheads on the Chaplin's cape.
The rest will have to wait a bit as I'm waiting on my orders from ForgeWorld and Spellcrow. I've put together the Contemptor and mostly put together the Terminators.

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