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search116 06-23-11 02:51 PM

What army suffers at your hobby shop
 
Well I started this thread to see what army suffers the most in your hobby shop win/loss wise, this can be based on terrain, the individual player, or codex creep.
At my hobby shop the orks suffer as they all play heavy mechanized and that doesn't fly due to the heavy amount of terrain and narrow choke points.

Ratvan 06-23-11 03:03 PM

My Dark Eldar since I only really bought the figures to model and paint and haven't quite figured out how to use them game wise. I can usually manage to work a squad through a combat gain a pain token then get hammered by shooting as I've chased stuff down with the raiders when I should keep them close to the troops for the re deploy.


Basically I know where I am going wrong, I just can't help myself!

Moonschwine 06-23-11 03:10 PM

Everyone mot playing space marines.

Blood Angels....Blood Angels everywhere...

C'Tan Chimera 06-23-11 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonschwine (Post 1009325)
Everyone mot playing space marines.

Blood Angels....Blood Angels everywhere...

That right there. No army suffers here because they are all equal Marines. Truthfully it gets rather boring. In that sense I guess you could also say any army NOT Space Marines suffers.

The Son of Horus 06-23-11 06:47 PM

I try pretty hard to maintain a casual environment around here. Every army seems to do equally well in that environment. We even have a Necron player who does quite well--including in tournaments, which are very competitive and somewhat cutthroat around here (and are a departure from the more normal casual environment since we have a huge out of town attendance for those). If any army truly suffers locally, it's probably because it hasn't been played regularly. For example, a lot of folks around here have Tyranids, but nobody plays them on a weekly basis... you see a Tyranid army maybe once every couple months these days. And they usually get beaten up on because whoever's playing them tries to play them like they're something else.

Doelago 06-23-11 06:48 PM

The Yu-Gi-Oh army. No, fuck seriously.

No idea really, the one I call my "local store" (or the two) are stores I visit (or am able to visit) maybe 2 or 3 times a year each, and I dont hang around long enough to see how the games end. :(

Pssyche 06-23-11 07:05 PM

What army suffers?
Pretty much anything you put in front of my Eldar.
Particularly my long time adversary Scott's Tyranids.

Unless, of course you're called DJ, you own an elastic tape measure, and you field 20% more than your points allowance for an army you pick AFTER seeing your opponent's list and models.

Dawnstar 06-24-11 02:54 AM

Probably Chaos Daemons, cause no-one around here plays them :laugh:

Xela 06-24-11 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pssyche (Post 1009469)
What army suffers?
Pretty much anything you put in front of my Eldar.
Particularly my long time adversary Scott's Tyranids.

Unless, of course you're called DJ, you own an elastic tape measure, and you field 20% more than your points allowance for an army you pick AFTER seeing your opponent's list and models.

That's cheating....

And at my store, Space Marines because no one there knows how to play them

sybarite 06-24-11 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawnstar (Post 1009770)
Probably Chaos Daemons, cause no-one around here plays them :laugh:

l agree with you there in my area we got 4 necrons player and one daemon, overall l don't think l have ever seen him win one game :(.

as for SM the most common one is GK's (we got 12 people who play them now.) oddly unlike Moonschwine and C'Tan Chimera. BA are very uncommon with only 3 people who play them and only 1 of those 3 use them often

Shandathe 06-24-11 03:58 AM

Around here? The Space Marines, strangely enough. Most of the veteran players use other armies you see, and that leaves the Space Marines in the hands of the... not yet particularly capable.

GrimzagGorwazza 06-24-11 04:06 AM

Tau. Our regular tau player just cannot resist charging his battle suits into combat. Sigh

Fallen 06-24-11 04:42 AM

its pretty balanced here pretty balanced between Power Armored armies, IG, E/DE, and Chaos (both). Nids are starting to go away though.


Tau, Metal/Color-of-army Toasters (necrons), BTs, DAs, SoB...all the older codexs dont do very well. but that said there's still a few people who play them with consistency.

BloodAngelZeros 06-24-11 05:27 AM

Well, it's been awhile since I played at my local store. Though, last I was there things seemed pretty even as to who was able to win and what have you. I was rolling necrons at the time and won a fair amount of matches. Whenever there was a 2x2 match these same guys (blood angels and tau) seemed to annihilate any others. Though, I think the tau player made up a lot of crap cause nobody else played em. If I had to pick an army that seemed to get spanked more than others it would be the eldar, but I don't think the guys that played em knew how to use em very well.

eyescrossed 06-24-11 05:37 AM

Well we only have 4 or 5 regular players, but the armies are Space Marines, Blood Angels, Tau, Imperial Guard, Tyranids, Chaos Marines, Eldar and Dark Eldar. I might be forgetting one.

As for the one who suffers most? Probably the Tau/IG. Their player can't find the right balance with IG, and frankly, he just sucks with Tau. Other than that, Space Marines. Out of two of the three players who use them occasionally, one has a really weird army (30+ Termies, 20 Tacs, 3 Land Raiders) and the other is a new guy.

Ravner298 06-24-11 01:08 PM

I don't even know what a 'sisters of battle' is or what said 'sisters of battle do'. Out of the active armies though? There's a guy who plays BA all jump infantry/asteroth and gets handled 9 times out of 10.

DeathKlokk 06-24-11 01:43 PM

The one set up opposite me.

:so_happy:

mynameisgrax 06-24-11 02:19 PM

Sisters of Battle and Eldar both do quite well at my local shop, mainly because the players using them are all very experienced with them.

Overall, there's a relatively good mix and balance of successful armies at my local hobby shop, with one notable exception: the poor Tau always seem to get their teeth kicked in. Regardless of the mission, the second half of every game, where units begin reaching close combat, is where they always seem to fall to pieces.

Necron and Daemons can have a tough time, but both win at least 2-3 times as much as the Tau over here.

MetalHandkerchief 06-24-11 05:25 PM

Tau are challenging to play, takes a while to master the current codex and unfortunately this is represented in games. I have a very positive win rate with them though, but the same can't be said for the other Tau locals, who probably win/draw only one in three games.

However, Tyranids are going through all kinds of hell right now. There are three Tyranids players and I'm not exaggerating when I say they have a total of 2 wins between them since the new codex between them. In the old edition they used to win lots and lots.

Even the lone local Necron player consistently trashes them.

Tim/Steve 06-24-11 05:50 PM

Largely speaking most of the armies played do ok... I upset things a little normally since I'm one of the best players in the store and deliberately use weak armies, so daemons and necrons (which are almost exclusively used by me) do very well.


Nilla marines, tyranids and tau all fare pretty badly. I really don't rate C:SM as an army; the non-codex chapters are simply better, a lot of the local tyranid players haven't really struck onto a balance that works for them and tau suffer from being tau... I'm sure that good tau armies exist, but I haven't seen them. They just dont seem to have enough shots to do enough damage; sure tau weaponry is nasty... but not when it fires twice, misses once then dies

Warlock in Training 06-24-11 08:19 PM

ANY army not 5th Edition... except Nids. Lets face it 5th Edition Books like DE, BAs, SWs, IG, SM, and GKs all have ALOT of Builds and do well in Tourneys. Espicialy IG, SWs, and recently GKs.

rokar4life 06-25-11 05:06 PM

Sisters of Battle get destroyed around here on a regular basis, but that's because only one person plays them and he... well he isn't a tactical genius, and lets leave it at that.

DeathKlokk 06-25-11 05:08 PM

You have CREEEEEEED! in your gaming group?!


Cool.

Ashkore08 06-26-11 12:09 PM

Funny enough, Chaos doesnt seem to suffer in my area. This one guy i know who plays them does pretty well against vanilla marines.


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