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Kurt Russell 11-03-10 05:46 AM

Dark angels 2000 list in development.
 
Hi folks. As the thread title suggests, I'm looking for some guidance on creating a 2000pt DA list. I'm new to this so I welcome all criticism as long as it is constructive:) Here's what I've got so far:

HQ
  • Belial; storm bolter and Sword of silence - 130 pts
  • Sammael; Plasma cannon and TLSB - 205 pts
Elites (all scoring)
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/pair of LC - 215 pts
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/pair of LC - 215 pts
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/THSS - 215 pts
Fast Attack (all scoring)
  • Ravenwing Attack Squadron; 3 more bikers, two meltas, an attack bike with multimelta and landspeeder with HB and AC - 390 pts
Heavy Support
  • Land Raider; TLHB, TLLC - 250 pts
  • Vindicator; Dozer blade - 130 pts
The list is 255 points short of being 2000. I'm thinking maybe a command squad, or a second vindicator or more bikes for the remainder. Command squads are something I have no experience with, and only have any idea of their battlefield role in theory and not in practice. Vindicators are always great and they say you should take more than one, but that's still gonna leave me with a number of points leftover. If I were to take an additional bike squad, I wouldn't have enough to upgrade it to full size including the attack bike and landspeeder, which I would definitely want! Two scoring landspeeders on the battlefield. Tits.

At any rate, I really want to maintain this list as a Deathwing/Ravenwing hybrid. Not that I'm not open to the idea of making major changes to this list under scrutiny, it's just that the versatility that these forces offer you is unparalleled, it seems, with the Deathwing able to shred enemies in CC and the ravenwing able to jump into the heat of action and bombard the enemy with firepower. As a DA player, of course I appreciate fluff and as a gamer, of course I appreciate something that's going to allow me to win. A nice happy medium is where I hope this list will fall. What units might the DA chapter requisition in their search for the fallen when faced with such foes as the mindless Necrons, the ravenous Orks, the heretical Eldar and of course, the traitorous forces of Chaos? These are the forces I'll be going up against regularly, especially Necrons and Orks.
Thanks in advance for your answers everyone!

ThunderHawk 11-03-10 01:55 PM

My suggestions is maybe add the Vindicator.

Fallen 11-03-10 02:36 PM

id swap the land raider for a crusader & get a 2nd vindicator

Marshal Ragnar 11-03-10 03:06 PM

Def take a Crusader over the regular Land Raider. Crusaders can fit more termies and can still shoot all of its weapons while moving!!!

dander 11-19-10 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt Russell (Post 775941)

HQ
  • Belial; storm bolter and Sword of silence - 130 pts
  • Sammael; Plasma cannon and TLSB - 205 pts
These guys are great. Belial should have lightning claws though. As far as Sammael goes I prefer his landspeeder. AV14 and his twin linked weapons are just the tits. when he is on his jetbike he makes an easy target for shooting as he is not an independent character and can't hide in a squad.

Elites (all scoring)
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/pair of LC - 215 pts
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/pair of LC - 215 pts
  • Deathwing Terminators 5X; all models w/THSS - 215 pts

Deathwing THSS terminators suck ass. There is no need to make all assault squads because DA deathwing squads can mix and match however your little heart desires. By all means take a bunch of lightning claws and maybe 1 or 2 THSS termies with the chapter banner and belial in a land raider crusader.Take the other two squads and put an assault cannon and 1 or 2 LCs maybe a chainfist. Use the bikes scout move to find a nice spot to 1st turn ds these 2 squads with a deathwing assault.


Fast Attack (all scoring)
  • Ravenwing Attack Squadron; 3 more bikers, two meltas, an attack bike with multimelta and landspeeder with HB and AC - 390 pts

I use this exact squad all the time and it works great. Another option that I have been playing with lately is a plasma-bike squad. Two plasma-guns and a plasma-pistol on the sarge with an apothecary (to prevent those overheating roll).It's a little pricey but I've been having a good time with them. The apoth. doesn't need to be in a squad to save someone so he can fly around helping where needed.


Heavy Support
  • Land Raider; TLHB, TLLC - 250 pts
  • Vindicator; Dozer blade - 130 pts

Make the raider a crusader for the big termie assault squad and belial. As far as your extra points go I probably used a chunk of those up ut finding a way to squeeze another bike squad would be great. If not just grab a second raider.

Thats my two cents

casca 11-20-10 01:12 AM

my two cents for how ever much it is actually worth...

1 bikes make better scoring units then terminators do.
2 having both bikes and terminators as scoring units is just fun!
3 take more bikes
4 more bikes
5 upgrade one terminator in each squad to have A:cyclone missile launcher, B:assault cannon

one of my favorite DA lists is...
sammy and beliel

3x decked out bike squads just like you have,
2 x termi squads with cyclone missile launchers 1 in each.

comes out to 5 points shy of 2k

Izzleydill 11-20-10 07:03 AM

I would get some more basic infantry. The DA have great, cheaper veteran squads. I would take a full rhino with either a veteran squad or a tactical squad to add some flexibility to your army. Also try to put a company banner in with one of your deathwing squads. I do agree with mixing them up and the 4+ SS are garbage. One last thing about Belial, run him with dual lightning claws. He gets an extra attack (better then rerolling one failed to wound) and then rerolls all those failed to wounds.


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