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Kaizer 01-30-10 01:56 PM

Mycetic Spore and tank shocking
 
I ended up in a funny sitation a couple of nights ago. Me and some friends end up playing a 2 vs 2 battle, Space wolves and CSM vs. My deathwing and a little detachment of tyranids.

The situation started when the chaos player decided to tank shock the nid players mycetic spore aka. snot pod.

And here the problems starts. The snot pod would end up beneath the tankshocking rhino, and after tank shocking rules it would have to be moved so it weren't beneath or with in 1" of the rhino, but the snot pod may not move... so? We ended up letting it do death or glory, and failed so it died.

What would you do in a situation as this? Would you do as we did, would you move the pod? Any other ideas?

DeathKlokk 01-30-10 02:42 PM

Just like a Mawloc and an immobilised vehicle, I'd just move the model out of the way. The model should be moved unless there is no room for it to be moved, regardless of it's ability to move of its own volition.

Fenge 01-30-10 02:57 PM

Would an immobalised tank not just get rammed instead?

DeathKlokk 01-30-10 03:25 PM

Yes, a ram Vs. an immobilised vehicle would result in a ram, but the Mawloc moves models out of the way (destroying any who can't be moved) in the same way, but it is not a tank shock/ram. I just used it as an example (from a recent thread here).

solkan 01-30-10 07:18 PM

I'm not a big fan of mandatory Death or Glory either. The two better alternatives, I think, are:

1. The prohibition for the pod is "move" in the active mood. The wording for tank shock is "is moved" in the passive mood. So if a tank shocking tank ends its movement on top of the pod, relocating the pod is acceptable.

2. Because the pod cannot move, then the tank must give way and if it would end its move on top of the pod then it has to stop before coming into contact with the pod.

Of course, the third alternative is to fabricate some special rules to deal with the situation of trying to ram a tank into what must be the single biggest (by volume, even it if might be mostly empty) mass of flesh on the board. It should be fairly likely that a ground vehicle would get stuck inside the pod in that sort of situation. :scare:

Arcangon 01-30-10 07:47 PM

I would imagine most Tyranid players in this situation would just be taking the Death or Glory. S6 automatic hit from a 40-60 pt MC... and if it fails you just lose a BS2 creature.

Taggerung 01-30-10 08:04 PM

Ya, the thing gets 2d6 + 6, so why not death or glory!

darklove 01-30-10 08:07 PM

The rules for the Spore say it can never move for any reason once it has entered the battle. It would seem to be a forced Death or Glory action.

Wolf_Lord_Skoll 01-31-10 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklove (Post 560305)
The rules for the Spore say it can never move for any reason once it has entered the battle. It would seem to be a forced Death or Glory action.

I agree, and as people have pointed out, why wouldn't you do that anyway? It's not like its reliable for shooting :P

Kaizer 01-31-10 08:14 AM

I wouldn't just do it, because it would be an extremely easy way to gain a killpoint. I can see in the end most times the pod will penetrate the tank with out much of a problem, but the chance of the tank just getting some minor damage is bigger than the tank getting wrecked or destroyed, which for me is a problem.

It might not be reliable for shooting, but mission wise it can either contest an objective if placed right or as above be a killpoint.


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