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Culler 01-23-08 01:14 AM

Librarian in a Rhino + Fury of the Ancients
 
I have a silly idea, but need some rules sorted out first. The question is this: Can I have a librarian use the fury of the ancients power from inside a rhino?

First rules dilemma: Can you use psychic powers from inside a transport?
My view: For powers that you do instead of shooting, I'd certainly say so. Dunno for others.

Second rules dilemma: The power says you draw a straight line from the librarian to any point on the map and all enemy units along that path take d3 str 5 hits. However, the line stops as soon as it hits a close combat or an allied unit and enemy units beyond that aren't affected. Where is the librarian? If he's inside the rhino, would it dissipate from going through the rhino or would the rhino count as the originating point?
My view: The fire point on the rhino is the top hatch, so that's what I'd call the originating point. The Librarian would take up one of the 2 fire point slots. Since units can normally fire from this point without the rhino blocking LoS, I'd say that the librarian can do so as well with this power not being blocked by the rhino.

It's not as if it breaks the game or anything, but it would give the librarian a little extra mobility. I just like the mental image of the librarian flinging out psychic constructs from the top hatch of a rhino.

Dirge Eterna 01-23-08 03:15 AM

I would say it'd be perfectly legal, yes. A Librarian may use any psychic power counting as a shooting attack from a fire point in a vehicle.

-Dirge

Bishop120 01-23-08 03:29 AM

Perfectly legal to shoot it out of the top hatch.. you can even move 12" and still fire it.. I wouldnt say that it dissipates from touching the rhino as its also originating from it.

Mad King George 01-23-08 03:33 AM

sounds dodgey

Bishop120 01-23-08 03:35 AM

Read the rules for firepoints in the BGB.. its perfectly legal.

Culler 01-23-08 03:53 AM

That's awesome. Glad to hear that others echo my sentiments. I thought it a bit dodgy too but since it isn't unbalancing it falls in the 40k realm of 'a bit dodgy but makes the game more fun' which is always allowed unless your opponent is a d.b.

Mad King George 01-23-08 04:23 AM

hmmm i might make a force of bodyguards the non bikes .. readign rules yeah its ok :p

danjbrierton 01-23-08 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishop120 (Post 57323)
Perfectly legal to shoot it out of the top hatch.. you can even move 12" and still fire it.. I wouldnt say that it dissipates from touching the rhino as its also originating from it.

WRONG. Any tank moving over 6" may not fire, including rhinos.
~dan

Culler 01-23-08 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danjbrierton (Post 57446)
WRONG. Any tank moving over 6" may not fire, including rhinos.
~dan

No but passengers may fire from transports if the transport moves up to 12". They count as moving so heavy weapons cannot be fired and rapid fire weapons are at a maximum range of 12".

Damned Fist 01-23-08 07:27 PM

Why a rhino? If you want mobility then put him on a bike(Increase toughness to 5 and uses twin-linked bolters) or equip him with a jump pack. Both offer the mobility that you want and then some as well as being cheaper point-wise.


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