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Jace of Ultramar 10-19-15 11:35 AM

"Horror" movies
 
So, this past weekend I went to a get together at a friend's house. There were a few of us and we were discussing plans for the upcoming Halloween night. A couple have younger kids and planned on letting them have Halloween party at their place along with a sleepover to watch "scary" movies, which brought up the topic of "which movies to watch?"

The typical movies were tossed around of the Freddy, Jason, Chainsaw Massacres, and Halloween variety. When asked my opinion I had to admit having never seen any of those films, this actually garnered a lot of WTF looks from people who have known me for the better of 20+ years, not to mention a couple were thrown way off (apparently) due to knowing that H.P. Lovecraft is one of my favourite authors.. I enjoy a variety of movies and have never had the desire to watch any "Horror/Scary" movies. Those films weren't watched in the house I grew up in, my mom and dad were more into action/adventure, SciFi, and comedy films.

So, as things progressed and we continued talking, the person whose house we were at, decided to Netflix a movie for watching at the Halloween party and for me to see a "scary" movie. The movie picked out was "The Babadook" which I have to say, sounds like some gibberish profanity. So, after a couple hours of sitting through this, I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the idea that I've missed out on anything.

It was recommended that I should watch horror films all day this coming Halloween. Out of curiosity, were I to do this, what would anyone here on Heresy recommend? I'm probably not going to bother, but, I may end up doing it just to say I've seen "these films" get of my case.

Angel of Blood 10-19-15 12:53 PM

Honestly, I'm there with you. I've not seen a lot of the big horror movies like Friday 13th etc. But I have seen plenty of horror movies, and they just don't scare me. I don't even get the tension or creepy vibe. The best that happens is that I may jump at a jump scene or moment, but even then not often. Most of them are awful plots and stories as well.

I'd say go for one of the 'horror' films that are still enjoyable to watch even if you don't get scared, good action, crime or thrillers that aren't strictly horror films. Maybe something like...

Event Horizon, or Cube.

Moriouce 10-19-15 01:09 PM

I'm the third then. The horror genra is perhaps the most difficult in all of the Movie buisness. Most horror Movies sound good initially but soon falls to the Jump-scene to jump-scene. You don't get scared, you just react to something suddenly happening.

Movies that builds an atmosphere but where nothing never happnes is preferable. The only horror Movie I have ever liked is the Blair Witch Project. The village felt like a good Movie aswell untill they made the misstake of showing the "monster" and it all Went downhill from there.

The thing is that a horror Movie should focus on what fear and terror do to the human psyche. Not on the external threat that is present, which most Movies do unfortunately.

Tawa 10-19-15 02:20 PM

Nope, right there with you. I find "horror" and "scary" movies to be absolute and utter boring bollocks. There's precisely zero frightening about them, even when seen at ridiculous volume at the cinema.

I have only ever jumped and let out a scream once, and that was actually down to an ex-gf gripping my arm in terror and sinking her fecking nails right into it. There was some genuine blood involved that time I can tell you!

Jace of Ultramar 10-19-15 04:28 PM

To this day, I think the scariest movie I've ever seen is Alien. It's not even Horror, but, I saw it when I was 13 and it actually was frightening to me at that time.

Haskanael 10-19-15 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2236194)
To this day, I think the scariest movie I've ever seen is Alien. It's not even Horror, but, I saw it when I was 13 and it actually was frightening to me at that time.

actualy it falls under the science fiction horror genre :P


anyhow, I agree with the lot of the people here. horror is well, dead. there is nothing scary. the people in my area go crazy over hack and slash movies like SAW and texas chainsaw massacre tho.. I still dont think they should be in the horror genre but whatever. hack and slash/blood and gore. is boring.

ntaw 10-19-15 05:49 PM

I like horror movies because I laugh at them. Honestly how scary could anything you know to be fake and made in Hollywood be? I mean, if you empathize with the characters and pretend like you're in their situation you might creep yourself out...but yeah. Not everyone likes everything. Regardless of the genre of film, I find if you watch something considered a 'classic' without being 'in' to the genre you're almost always predisposed to be disappointed. I'm blown away by the models, camera angles, and fireworks used in the space battles of Star Wars but the kids I teach? They think it's the lamest crap ever because "have you even seen graphics these days?". Same goes for a scene in Evil Dead 2 when a character is possessed by the Evil Dead and there's a closeup on an eye turning white which was done with a mask, glass eye, and milk injected into it. Brilliant. Compare that to anything that's come out in the last decade and it looks....well, lame and crappy :laugh:

Plots I find haven't changed much over the decades. So long as people are dying grotesquely and jumps are being made I don't think Hollywood much cares for story telling.

Or, just check out this list (some have been named already):

Pandorum
Event Horizon
The Evil Dead movies (incl. Army of Darkness, none of these should be taken seriously)
28 Days/Weeks Later (fast zombies worry me)
Alien/Aliens
The Thing
The Hitcher

There's a few good ones in my books. First two are straight sci-fi thrillers.

Battman 10-19-15 09:01 PM

Well not much to really add just another couple of segestions:

●cabin in the woods (horror parody)
●any of the aliens (particularly the 5th really scary somethings going on there, may not been intentional)
●the cube or hypercube are always interesting if you like that body horror that SAW offers.
●wolf creek one and two (still can't get the laugh out of my head)
●"silence of the lambs" is heading towards a horror so might count or of course "hanibal rising" too. Speaking of the newer tv series is good too if your up for a long night.

Only other thought which isn't really a movie but that youtube series, of an anthology of short clips "marble hornets", haven't watched any but is ment to be good
Thats all.

ntaw 10-20-15 01:11 AM

HA!

Tucker and Dale vs. Evil for some parody fun.

Old Man78 10-20-15 03:33 AM

Stephen Kings "it" made in the 80s but still fucking creepy! ".... don't you want you're boat back Georgie?..."

ntaw 10-20-15 03:48 AM

Ugh. Clowns.

Killer Klowns from Outer Space (they turn you into cotton candy and drink you with crazy swirly straws!!)

Jace of Ultramar 10-20-15 04:08 AM

Ha, crazy swirly straws!

Speaking of off the wall films that are fun, look up Hot Rod Girls Save The World

Kreuger 10-20-15 04:53 AM

I'm not a horror fan. And i am definitely not a fan of do called torture porn like SAW or Hostel.

It also depends on what you mean by "horror." There's quite a bit that's mostly about "body horror" and gore which I'm not at all interested in.

Cube isn't a horror movie. It's a parable about Christian faith. And some of it is bloody but not scary.

Anyway, Hellraiser and Hellraiser 2. After that they really deteriorated. The novella it's based on is also really bizarre and dark. Think summoning heralds of Slaanesh, from before such a thing was devised in warhammer.

The Exorcist is still one of the most disturbing movies I've ever seen.

Army of darkness is pretty awesome. Campy and funny.

I despised event horizon. It was supposed to be a scary "solaris" and it made little internal sense. And the design of sets and ships while spooky, made zero sense.

Loli 10-20-15 05:49 AM

I don't care for Horror films to be honest, I've never watched the Freddie, Jason, Halloween and all that. I just don't see how they can be scary because it's my understanding that they are more slash flicks than anything. I think horror films, well the bulk of the ones I've watched that have been billed as 'scary', just aren't and they come off as cheap and samey.

I'm going to see Crimson Peak on Friday, I know I won't be scared I'm just hoping to see a good film.

What horror films I think are good aren't scary they are just good films if that makes sense, I've watched a decent number of horror films and the ones I enjoyed, I enjoyed because I found them interesting, they didn't go for cheap thrills, killings just isn't scary anymore, people are largely desensitised to it and showing blood isn't scary. Films that rely on them just can't be scary to modern movie goers anymore, but doesn't mean you can't tell a good story.

Khorne's Fist 10-20-15 08:27 AM

Of course you were underwhelmed by the Babadook. It's a shit film by the standard of any genre, apparently designed to scare 4 year olds. But feel free to write off a whole genre off the back of one bad film. It's like saying Star Wars must be shit because Space Truckers was shit.

Tawa 10-20-15 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236554)
Space Truckers.

Well there's something I'd blanked from my memory.....

ntaw 10-20-15 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2236450)
look up Hot Rod Girls Save The World

Ha! Done. How about Maximum Overdrive?? :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Kreuger (Post 2236474)
I despised event horizon.

Check out Pandorum then. Way better movie in my books, though I've never been so bored during a movie that I've been picking apart set designs. I'd hit stop well before that point :shok:

Unless of course we're talking about being able to see the top of the set like in some running scenes in the Evil Dead (or pretty much any b-movie really)....'cuz that's some hilarity right there.

Jace of Ultramar 10-20-15 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236554)
Of course you were underwhelmed by the Babadook. It's a shit film by the standard of any genre, apparently designed to scare 4 year olds. But feel free to write off a whole genre off the back of one bad film. It's like saying Star Wars must be shit because Space Truckers was shit.

What? Where the hell did this come from?

Khorne's Fist 10-20-15 05:50 PM

This thread just seems rather pointless. You're asking for recommendations for horror movies, a genre you seem to have written off already, while at the same time admitting you'll probably never watch them. What's the point of that?

Jace of Ultramar 10-20-15 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236802)
This thread just seems rather pointless. You're asking for recommendations for horror movies, a genre you seem to have written off already, while at the same time admitting you'll probably never watch them. What's the point of that?

So, your angst boils down to "I don't like what you've posted and decided that this is my new axe to grind."
Ok.

ntaw 10-20-15 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236802)
What's the point of that?

Maybe he or another reader does end up watching one of the movies mentioned or reading some contrasting opinions and having an opinion change (like how I watch horror movies for the lol's instead of the scares which are pretty much non-existent).

What's the point of calling people out on pointless content with more pointless content in a sub-forum about pointless content?

Khorne's Fist 10-20-15 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2236850)
So, your angst boils down to "I don't like what you've posted and decided that this is my new axe to grind."
Ok.

No, it boils down to you basically asking a question and then telling people you're not that interested in their answers. Seems somewhat self indulgent.

Jace of Ultramar 10-20-15 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236946)
No, it boils down to you basically asking a question and then telling people you're not that interested in their answers. Seems somewhat self indulgent.

So, basically, your point is still "I don't like what you've posted and decided that this is my new axe to grind."

Khorne's Fist 10-20-15 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2236954)
So, basically, your point is still "I don't like what you've posted and decided that this is my new axe to grind."

If you can't see the inherent insult in asking a question while saying you don't care for the answer, then yeah, that's my point.

Jace of Ultramar 10-20-15 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorne's Fist (Post 2236962)
If you can't see the inherent insult in asking a question while saying you don't care for the answer, then yeah, that's my point.

Dude, I asked the question and provided the provision that I may not watch any of these films. Anyone choosing to provide input that includes recommended films knew this with the first post.
I've not written off the genre as you have previously stated, but, I'm also not excited by the genre as a whole.
Furthermore, I don't know if you're trying to Troll here or if you're someone who can't help but respond due to compulsion, but, there are several pointless threads on this site as well as others. Usually, the best thing to do is just move on to the next one in the line and see if you like it better. Give it up, it's not worth your time and effort.

Moriouce 10-21-15 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2236978)
Dude, I asked the question and provided the provision that I may not watch any of these films. Anyone choosing to provide input that includes recommended films knew this with the first post.

I've not written off the genre as you have previously stated, but, I'm also not excited by the genre as a whole.

Furthermore, I don't know if you're trying to Troll here or if you're someone who can't help but respond due to compulsion, but, there are several pointless threads on this site as well as others. Usually, the best thing to do is just move on to the next one in the line and see if you like it better. Give it up, it's not worth your time and effort.


As I red the OP. You've never seen a horrormovie cause you don't care for the genre. But after the reaction from your friends you let yourself see one which they recomended and it was shit. It confirmed what you believed. But you are still curious and therefor this thread. You gotten some tips on Horrormovies that ain't totaly shit but also much more confirmation that the majority of Horrormovies are shit. So no problems from my point of view. Horrormovies are most likely shit and it is totaly fine if you don't Watch any of those that have been mentioned here.

Jace of Ultramar 10-21-15 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Moriouce (Post 2237042)
As I red the OP. You've never seen a horrormovie cause you don't care for the genre. But after the reaction from your friends you let yourself see one which they recomended and it was shit. It confirmed what you believed. But you are still curious and therefor this thread. You gotten some tips on Horrormovies that ain't totaly shit but also much more confirmation that the majority of Horrormovies are shit. So no problems from my point of view. Horrormovies are most likely shit and it is totaly fine if you don't Watch any of those that have been mentioned here.

Well, I've never seen the "Horror" movies that were brought up in conversation with friends. But, apparently things I've considered to be more Sci-Fi or Sci-Fantasy fell under the Horror genre even though I never saw them that way.

Such as:
Event Horizon
The Evil Dead movies
28 Days/Weeks Later
Alien/Aliens
The Thing
The Hitcher
Silence of the Lambs

I haven't seen Pandorum, Cube/Hypercube, Wolf Creek, Cabin in the Woods, any SAW film nor It. Pandorum may end up on my list to watch, I saw it has Dennis Quaid in it and he usually has involvement in decent films. It, may end up on my viewing list, depending on the length, which I believe I've had someone tell me previously that It was on TV originally and is 5 or 6 hours long, could be they were talking about The Stand, I don't really remember. As for the others, I may watch them, especially if Cabin in the Woods is a parody. Wolf Creek, never heard of it. Cube/Hypercube, sounds interesting from a previous description of it. SAW, honestly, I'm probably not going to bother with this since I know it's simply hack, slash, guts and puzzles made to kill people who don't survive them.

ntaw 10-21-15 02:43 PM

Pandorum is just a little old movie, bank on ~2 hours.

Here's the trailer I think. Posting this from my phone.

Moriouce 10-21-15 03:59 PM

When it comes to alien/aliens I consider 1&3 sci-fi horror and 2/4 sci-fi action.

Jace of Ultramar 10-21-15 08:49 PM

Actually, I think those should be rated as:

Alien: Horror
Aliens: Action
Alien 3: Drama
Alien Resurrection: Comedy

Vaz 10-21-15 09:03 PM

Forget films. They're rarely there. Although the original Poltergeist, 13 Ghosts, Woman In Black (first one, with Harry Potter in it), Jessabelle, and the Conjuring can be pretty good though.

Having said that.

Play Amnesia the Dark Descent. Fuck watching films. Black out curtains up, no lights, headphones on for all, or just turn up the surround sound. Or just watch a lets play (Gopher, I think is the best. He's not scared easily, and has a fantastic, non jerky, low mouse sensitivity playstyle).

A Machine for Pigs isn't as scary, but it's up there, as is Outlast; Whistleblower.



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Jace of Ultramar 10-21-15 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaz (Post 2237298)
Forget films. They're rarely there. Although the original Poltergeist, 13 Ghosts, Woman In Black (first one, with Harry Potter in it), Jessabelle, and the Conjuring can be pretty good though.

Having said that.

Play Amnesia the Dark Descent. Fuck watching films. Black out curtains up, no lights, headphones on for all, or just turn up the surround sound. Or just watch a lets play (Gopher, I think is the best. He's not scared easily, and has a fantastic, non jerky, low mouse sensitivity playstyle).

A Machine for Pigs isn't as scary, but it's up there, as is Outlast; Whistleblower.

Are those for consoles or PC?

DeathJester921 10-21-15 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2237338)
Are those for consoles or PC?

PC. I don't think any of them are on console.

As for what Vaz suggested, I've seen the original Poltergeist, 13 Ghosts, and The Conjuring. Great films all, though none of them scared me.

Jace of Ultramar 10-21-15 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathJester921 (Post 2237346)
PC. I don't think any of them are on console

Then that is do-able! I can track those down and hook the PC into my flatscreen and make an entire weekend of it!

Haskanael 10-22-15 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2237354)
Then that is do-able! I can track those down and hook the PC into my flatscreen and make an entire weekend of it!

I would suggest you try both penumbra games as well. same Devs as Amnesia, but the graphics are a bit more dated. however still a very dark and creepy atmosphere.

as someone who enjoys scary/creepy games. I can also suggest Alien: Isolation and evil within.

ntaw 10-22-15 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2237354)
Then that is do-able! I can track those down and hook the PC into my flatscreen and make an entire weekend of it!

Dude have you checked out Alien: Isolation?!??

EDIT: just noticed @Haskanael also mentioned it :grin:

Jace of Ultramar 10-22-15 10:32 AM

I'll have to pick up a headset and Alien: Isolation, it just looks so cool.

So, I'm looking at picking up:
Alien: Isolation
Evil Within
Amnesia the Dark Descent
A Machine for Pigs
Two Penumbra games... @Haskanael what are they called or is Penumbra the name?

Haskanael 10-22-15 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace of Ultramar (Post 2237610)
I'll have to pick up a headset and Alien: Isolation, it just looks so cool.

So, I'm looking at picking up:
Alien: Isolation
Evil Within
Amnesia the Dark Descent
A Machine for Pigs
Two Penumbra games... @Haskanael what are they called or is Penumbra the name?

I believe it is Penumbra overture and Penumbra the black plague (did you look at Outlast? it is seriously fucked up)

Jace of Ultramar 10-22-15 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Haskanael (Post 2237618)
I believe it is Penumbra overture and Penumbra the black plague (did you look at Outlast? it is seriously fucked up)

Not yet, I'm at work, but will make time on my lunch break later to do so.

Loli 10-22-15 03:16 PM

If your going for games and have a PS4 try Until Dawn, I played it in the dark, no light, nothing but the game and its music, I jumped frequently. Admitedly when it reached a certain point - you know what i mean if you have played it - it can be off putting for the mood, but otherwise Id check it out.

I think horror movies generally are dead, but games however, thats a different story.


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