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Captain_Loken 07-31-15 06:46 AM

Night Lords Novels
 
What do you guys think of the three?

I have heard of some mixed reviews, so I thought I would ask here to find out. I had to take a break from the HH set... getting kinda....dry...

I want to stay in the realm of the CSM, and I heard these books; Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver, Void Stalker.

The review site I looked at for some recommendations said they could be read individually or as a set. I think the set would be best. hah.

Also, does anyone know of any other good CSM novels they could recommend to me? If so, just let me know who the author is please!

Brother Lucian 07-31-15 08:37 AM

They are considered some of the better CSM books. ADB certainly has a much better hold on traitor marines, than he does loyalists. The Talon of Horus is also a quite good read, though I think his Night Lords series hits the vibe a good deal better.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhamme...-omnibus_.html
It has a couple interlinking short stories as well, so a quite pickup.

Angel of Blood 07-31-15 09:05 AM

Mixed reviews? I've never heard anything but praise for the series. I thought they were fantastic, some of the best books you will find in the Black Library, I would even say they are 'must reads'. On another note though, I wouldn't say you could read the series out of order or on their own.

The novels I believe everyone should read include:

The Night Lords trilogy
Eisenhorn, Ravenor and Bequin
Gaunts Ghosts
The Emperor's Gift(ideally read after Ravenor)
Certain Heresy novels, but only if you're reading the series.

A lot of reading material there, but it's the best of BL imo.

Captain_Loken 07-31-15 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel of Blood (Post 2189082)
Mixed reviews? I've never heard anything but praise for the series. I thought they were fantastic, some of the best books you will find in the Black Library, I would even say they are 'must reads'. On another note though, I wouldn't say you could read the series out of order or on their own.

The novels I believe everyone should read include:

The Night Lords trilogy
Eisenhorn, Ravenor and Bequin
Gaunts Ghosts
The Emperor's Gift(ideally read after Ravenor)
Certain Heresy novels, but only if you're reading the series.

A lot of reading material there, but it's the best of BL imo.


I never really believe the review websites. I just dont think they know about the 40k universe, which doesn't help.

I have seen the books you mentioned and though about those a great deal, however, I wasn't sure if I really cared for imperial guard stuff, but the story line is more important to me.

Anyways, thanks for that list, it's quite helpful!

I would love to hear from others, and how their experience with the books have been.

Mob 07-31-15 09:57 PM

All the books in Angel of Blood's list are worth your while.

The Night Lords series is great. Characterisation and humour in spades, plus lots of tasty fluff and some slight rumination on the human condition. A lot of people have a real affection for the characters, which is interesting considering they're Night Lords.
Sometimes I think of them as akin to the 100 Acre Wood cast. Except, you know, also damned superhuman killing machines.

Angel of Blood 07-31-15 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Loken (Post 2189298)
I have seen the books you mentioned and though about those a great deal, however, I wasn't sure if I really cared for imperial guard stuff, but the story line is more important to me.

Gaunts Ghosts is the only one of those that is Imperial Guard based. But it's imo a truly fantastic series. The beauty of it being that it is quite big, so you do end up knowing and loving the characters quite a lot as you go, which makes their triumphs and casualties that much more meaningful, or so I found anyway.

Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Bequin, are so good because they show you the side you never see of the Imperium. The actual worlds, cities, politics and behind the scenes machinations. These novels aren't set on battlefronts or in the middle of giant wars and campaigns. They're on the ground, investigating leads, getting amongst Imperial society and politics, but with good solid action mixed in.

The Night Lords trilogy is so good I suppose, because it really get's you attached to these traitors, and some of the most brutal ones at that, yet still makes them protagonists in there own way.

On that same note, I knew I was missing one book out, and it's a truly unforgivable miss. I would put it up there in the top spot with others as one of the best books BL have produced and overall one of the best books I have read myself. Like the Night Lords, it focuses on traitors, but makes them into very sympathetic characters somehow in some cases and just downright likeable. It is a must read in every way, and the series will no doubt only get better. That book?

The Talon of Horus.

Captain_Loken 07-31-15 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel of Blood (Post 2189546)
The Talon of Horus.


Is this a stand alone or a part of a series?

Also, Angel, what do you think of the Dark Apostle books? I know there is a second and third, but I can't remember the name. Again, heard some not so great things about that, but I bought it at a half price book store today as I like to collect many books. Hah.

I will have to scoop up The Talon of Horus. I think I may have it already, but will have to change it from mobi format.

Brother Lucian 07-31-15 10:51 PM

The Talon of Horus is the first in a new series about the black legion.

cottrelli 07-31-15 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel of Blood (Post 2189082)
Mixed reviews? I've never heard anything but praise for the series. I thought they were fantastic, some of the best books you will find in the Black Library, I would even say they are 'must reads'. On another note though, I wouldn't say you could read the series out of order or on their own.

The novels I believe everyone should read include:

The Night Lords trilogy
Eisenhorn, Ravenor and Bequin
Gaunts Ghosts
The Emperor's Gift(ideally read after Ravenor)
Certain Heresy novels, but only if you're reading the series.

A lot of reading material there, but it's the best of BL imo.

Absolutely agree. One book I would add that is Angels of Darkness by Gav Thorpe. I'm not usually a fan of Thorpe's work (preferring ADB, Abnett and Wraight) but AoD really stood out to me as a great example of 40K fiction. It was released way back in the day (I want to say around '02 or '03) and was my introduction to the world of Warhammer, so maybe I'm just nostalgic.

On the other hand, it was one of the earliest examples I can remember of an interaction between a Fallen who was there for the Heresy and a zealot DA of the "modern" era. The absolute conviction from Astelan that he was in the right (detailed in the spoiler below) versus Boreas's determination to show him the error of his ways was a brilliant hook that kept me coming back for more, especially as we see Astelan's resolve begin to wear down. Of course it was interspersed with bolter porn, but even that was surprisingly well written and a good break from the interrogations. The fact that the ending beautifully tied together the interrogations and the more traditional action in the story made this all the better.

In short, Angels of Darkness is a great read and I would recommend it to anyone wanting to get a glimpse of DA Fallen-Faithful interaction before the letdowns that were the DA HH novels.


Captain_Loken 07-31-15 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Lucian (Post 2189562)
The Talon of Horus is the first in a new series about the black legion.


I will look for the author. I have a list of most if not all the novels that I can get ahold of, and they're listed by author. I had no luck trying to find this one. haha


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