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Doom wolf 02-27-15 08:21 PM

Are the Tau doomed ?
 
Lately I asked myself if the Tau were doomed to extinction...

Because, things aren't looking good for them. I mean, sure, the damocles crusade isn't a walk in the park, but the Tau empire is still almost just a blip in the map of the galaxy. Almost nothing compared to the millions worlds of the imperium.

The imperium has just to really commit himself to destroy the Tau.

But, things are getting worst for the little blue men, when you are considering they are herding human susceptible to chaos, or that they hadn't really crossing a savage species like the Ork on a massive waagh yet.

And the Tyranid are clawing their way closer and closer...

Personnally, I don't give the Tau two centuries... :(

Yours opinions ?

Over Two Meters Tall! 02-27-15 09:43 PM

Possible, but you could also compare them to Humanity with their developing technology at the start of the DAOT. They don't pose an existensial threat to any of the big galactic races, so won't draw themselves to destruction... unless they're blessed with a few Necron Tomb Worlds that awaken in their midst.

hailene 02-27-15 11:24 PM

Hrm, it could go either way.

The big issue is that the Tau need a means to expand their territory and their influence. Right now they're limited by their shallow warp dips which means they can't go far. There's a few ways they could get around this.

1. Develop new technology that allows them to move faster without a Navigator-like pilot. We've seen the Necrons and the Tyranids do this, so it's possible our tech-savvy Tau can do it, too.

2. Ally with a race both willing and capable of deeper Warp travel. The Imperium is unlikely to lend them Navigators and the Eldar, as a whole, probably haven't heard of the Tau. Still, the galaxy is a wide place, and maybe another psychically gifted race would be willing to accept the Greater Good.

3. Use the Gue'vesa (humans working under the Tau) to navigate the Warp. The Tau have taken over many human worlds--some for significant amounts of time. There's no living memory of life before Tau ownership.

Given these options, I can see the Tau surviving.

If they can't bolster their numbers and industrial capicity, however, they're doomed once a real Hive Fleet heads into their territory or a serious Ork WAAGH hits them.

Isn't there a major Hive Fleet enroute, anyway?

Serpion5 02-28-15 03:29 AM

I personally think the tau, if they stand on their own military capabilities, are doomed. They are simply too small of a player to survive on a galactic scale. With the Imperium resenting the losses of their own worlds, the orks simply looking for a big fight and the tyranids encroaching ever deeper into the galactic plane, they are simply outmatched.

I think their one saving grace may be the intervention of the necrons under the guidance and leadership of the Silent King. The agenda Szarekh is pushing most is the destruction of the tyranid hive fleets, and he has proven adept at manipulating outside forces towards this goal.

But then again, we don't know just how valuable the tau would be to this cause.

gen.ahab 02-28-15 05:39 AM

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First thing you need to know about 40k fluff: EVERYONE, no matter who there are, is DOOMED.

Really, 40k can be distilled down to it's most simple level by Gir:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/27aa6798...svtvo3_500.gif

The universe of 40k is set up so that, at the end of M41 (or whatever the hell it's at) everyone (though this doesn't apply as much to the egypto-bots, the bugs or 40k's somewhat 2D group of daemon hugers) is sitting at the knife's edge and anyone could either be destroyed or, if they've very lucky, manage to claw out a few thousand more years of existence. It's the ultimate 'one second till midnight' scenario.

That being said, once zero hour finally hits, anything could happen. The Tau may persist though some previously unknown piece of tech. As it stands though, yes, they're fairly far up shit creek, considering that they have neither the numbers nor the breathing room to repel any sort of major assault mounted by any of the major factions. Again, though, there's always something that could sweep in and save them.

Heck, maybe the Emperor is reborn as a god and decrees that every citizen of the Imperium should own their own personal pet Tau. You never know.

Brobaddon 07-06-15 08:41 PM

The little blue men will be fine. Underestimation can be a weapon just as any firearm or a cold weapon, something that races like orks benefit from heavily. An empire doesn't necessarily needs to be immense in order to be successful. Imperium's size for example in one way can be considered an advantage and in another a disadvantage, due to logistic, troops, and other problems. A small but compact and well defended Empire can withstand a lot. In tau's case, they are akin to eldar and astartes, brining quality to the table and not quantity. Aside Necrons and IOE, Tau just maybe the finest strategists of all races, given their is no adequate protection against their weapons. Even a few well places plasma shots will melt away an astartes, not to mention heavier battlesuits that rip apart tanks and superheavies as if they were made from paper.

The big problem isn't about expanding, but rather how fast can they respond to distress signals and send reinforcements to occupied planets.

Demon of Humanity 07-08-15 04:06 PM

tau will be fine they upgrade there tech when needed not when given permission by a machine cult. and there open to new ideas fact is there of surviving are higher than the imperium and eldar

Haskanael 07-08-15 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon of Humanity (Post 2176098)
tau will be fine they upgrade there tech when needed not when given permission by a machine cult. and there open to new ideas fact is there of surviving are higher than the imperium and eldar

I think their biggest problem is numbers. the Imperium of man has them, the Tyranids have them, the orks have them, hell even the Chaos scum has them. the Tau in comparison have very small numbers.

Demon of Humanity 07-08-15 04:39 PM

That means Tau like the eldar will not do anything stupid I wish the imperium didn't have there numbers so they won't idiocies anymore

Haskanael 07-08-15 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon of Humanity (Post 2176122)
That means Tau like the eldar will not do anything stupid I wish the imperium didn't have there numbers so they won't idiocies anymore

the Tau fought battles they could not win, and the eldar have as well.

I dunno "do anything stupid" can be any number of things.


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