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fatmantis 07-04-14 01:47 AM

How to rank my players?
 
so i want to implement a ranking system at my store..im trying to find more ways to keep people motivated to play..and its getting harder and harder..my biggest issue is with the WAAC players..although i only have a few they really destroy the morale of the club..i try to keep on top of it and tell them but they dont want to listen.

So the reason i want to do a ranking system is so people can play people their own ability..i know this may be hard to do..but im looking for suggestions on how i can do this..

maybe somthing like
level of player...vetran..w/l/d
or points based

really could use some help
thanks guys

Mossy Toes 07-04-14 03:28 AM

I feel like the best way to implement this is to get the buy-in of people in the store. If you can get them to buy into the idea and want to get their names up on a board, if you can get them to want to buy into a sort of "store league" idea--cool, good. If it feels like an imposition, with you hovering over peoples' shoulders so that you can add their score--win or lose--to the Wall of Death, then you won't exactly be cultivating a good atmosphere in the shop. Perhaps let people have "ranked" matches and "unranked" matches, with only the former being added to the board--so if you are competitive enough to care about your score and are, say, trying out a new army, it wont reflect poorly on your stats.

The easiest way I could see this happening is some sort of competition or something. Nothing major, necessarily, but I dunno, some gubbins, a few $ store credit, some sort of gaming bragging rights, or something in that vein for the most wins marked on the board per month... obviously the little prize-thing might most often go to those selfsame WAAC players, but it'd be it'd be a way to "gamify" the scoreboard and give the WAAC players a reason to buy into the system. It might even promote more games played over the month, or something--or friendly rivalries between people high on the leaderboard.

This is just spitballing and brainstorming, of course. I do think "leaderboards as something to take pride in" is important, though, rather than "a big warning board I put up to warn people which players not to play with." It can serve that purpose, obviously, but... don't make that the explicit purpose of it.

Reaper45 07-04-14 04:32 AM

The only way I see something like this having a positive benefit is if you can ensure the waac people are constantly at the bottom of the score board. Otherwise it's just going to make it worse.

fatmantis 07-04-14 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper45 (Post 1793530)
The only way I see something like this having a positive benefit is if you can ensure the waac people are constantly at the bottom of the score board. Otherwise it's just going to make it worse.

well yes this is my main fear as well..the WAAC players would just get a hard on for this and it would ruin it for other players.
i like the i dea of ranked or unranked games...but i just come back to the WAAC's and how to get them to chill...
they are my biggest complaint from customers..i try to tell people well just dont play them..but sometimes if the store is quiet they dont have a choice...

scscofield 07-04-14 07:56 AM

Ask all the players what they want and tell them your concerns. They are the ones that will have to want to do this.

neferhet 07-04-14 08:03 AM

Just make 2 types of games scheduled.
A WAAC games board, where you do sign only if you are willng to sheel out a cheesy list and a top competitive gaming, and a Casual game board, where do you sign if you just want to roll some dice and have a laugh. You can have a ranking system for both, separated. You could add that the Casual game board requires a list approval from the opponent. No cheesefest there. You might want to make tourneys for both, with WAAC game board using a $ prize and $ to sign in and the Casual for free with a symbolic prize
Just some random stuff. I feel for your problem. I know howw bad it can be.

Nordicus 07-04-14 08:12 AM

Running a gaming group myself, I know your troubles man - It can be a pain to manage, as all you want is to inspire people to play and have a good time.

In my experience, it goes downhill a bit at the start and then people start playing around the WAAC players. Currently the 2 players who plays the least are the WAAC players, as people simply don't challenge them - In other words, they exclude themselves as they cannot play at multiple levels and thus, people just start avoiding them. One of the 3 started making fluff lists and had fun, as he understood that in order to play regularly, you have to be able to have fun on both sides.

Maybe it sorts itself out - Otherwise I would recommend Neferhets approach.

scscofield 07-04-14 08:13 AM

That is how my group ended up. The over the top douchebags just didn't get a chance to play.


Edit: The more I read this the more it looks like you just have a couple of bad eggs. If they are refusing to play nice your best route is most likely to tell them to not come. making a ranking system us going to make the problem worse not help it.

fatmantis 07-04-14 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scscofield (Post 1793722)
That is how my group ended up. The over the top douchebags just didn't get a chance to play.


Edit: The more I read this the more it looks like you just have a couple of bad eggs. If they are refusing to play nice your best route is most likely to tell them to not come. making a ranking system us going to make the problem worse not help it.

yes its is only a couple of guys..but they are so argumentative that it does ruin it for other people..and when i try to talk to them the just ignore me..and i think oh well people just wont play you..i was hoping that would be the case..but it turned out that people just prefer not to come at all..

i like the idea of 2 boards..but the problem im having is i have to run the shop...promote etc..run my painting studio(which takes alot of my time) and then babysit these guys which is extremely frustrating..

i tried to not organise anything to see what would happen.. i even gave them membership point leading to store credit..if they organised games/tournament they could score large points..but that fell through..

so i comes down to me having to ring around/qq/wechat and other social media to get games organized..
its absolutely frustrating.

and when i ask well what to you guys want..nobody replies..or theyll say tournaments. great..organise a tournament hardly enough people come..ive cancelled lots of tourneys due to that

scscofield 07-04-14 08:46 AM

Not shocking that no one listens to you or cares, if you spend your time focused on your painting studio. Main reason the store here went belly up. The owner didn't spend enough time with his customers.


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