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jessedevaan 10-05-13 09:56 AM

2k list, Need Help!
 
Hi, I'm new to Vampire Counts, well actually I'm new to Fantasy Battle, anyway I'm looking for some advise for my 2k list (Using Mantic Miniatures), and do you think that my Lord (Lady?) is a good build? Thanks in advance.

Vampire Lord 376p
- Heavy Armour
- Sword of Bloodshed
- Enchanted Shield
- Talisman of Endurance
- Ironcurse Icon
- Red Fury
- Lore of the Vampires

Necromancer 90p
- Lore of the Vampires
- Dispel Scroll

Necromancer 65p
- Lore of the Vampires

Wight King 130p
- Ogre Blade
- Charmed Shield

Wight King 160p
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Banner of Barrows

40 Skeleton Warriors 230p
- Champion
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Spears

40 Skeleton Warriors 230p
- Champion
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Spears

40 Skeleton Warriors 230p
- Champion
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Spears

40 Grave Guards 485p
- Champion
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Lichebone Pennant


Total Points: 1996p (Cant find anything worth 4 points :laugh: )

(Oh and if your good with Vampire names, I need one for my Lord [Lady])

Dave T Hobbit 10-08-13 11:31 AM

What sort of game do you play? Fun, competitive?

Do you expect to face a particular army most of the time, or are you looking for a more all-comers list?

jessedevaan 10-09-13 05:21 AM

Thanks for Answering!
I would like to play a Fun army but still be a little bit competitive.
I play at a club so an All-Comers list.

Thanks

Dave T Hobbit 10-10-13 04:44 PM

Thematically it looks good.

Ghouls are better core infantry than skeletons, but that would obviously change the all-bone theme.

Are you intending to have one character per unit? If not I suggest removing the champions on units that will not have a character, as the benefit is not great unless you are trying to avoid a character challenge.

I suggest upgrading the Wight King to be a BSB. The Grave Guard unit can afford to be slightly smaller to free points if you are keeping all the champions.

jessedevaan 10-11-13 06:41 AM

I'm planing on having the Wight Kings & Vampire in the Grave Guard unit and the Necromancers in a Skeleton unit each, might put the Vampire in a Skeleton unit if that's a better idea. and the 2nd King is a BSB

Thanks

EDIT: Forgot to mention its not a Skelly Theme, So should I replace Skellys for Ghouls? 50/50? All Ghouls? Should I get any Zombies?

Thanks

Dave T Hobbit 10-12-13 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessedevaan (Post 1420777)
...the 2nd King is a BSB

So it is; that will teach me to post without coffee.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessedevaan (Post 1420777)
...should I replace Skellys for Ghouls? 50/50? All Ghouls? Should I get any Zombies?

If you are not following a theme then all Ghouls is a good choice.

The advantage of Zombies is being able to keep making the unit bigger quickly, so they can do well if you want to tie something up for ages.

To an extent it depends on your playstyle: zombies probably give you more attrition whereas ghouls give you more damage per turn.

Ratvan 10-12-13 05:26 PM

I'd go for a couple of units of 20 zombies with musician and standard and plug the rest of points with ghouls to give you a hammer and a couple of tarpits

KarnalBloodfist 10-13-13 07:35 PM

One thing I think you're really missing out on in this list is the ubiquitous sacrificial unit. Dire wolves and spirit host bases especially come to mind here. They allow you to place utility units early while giving you more time to see where your opponent is placing his units. 2 units of 5 wolves and a pair of single spirit host bases are almost always in any VC list that I build. If I've got the points for them, 2 units of 2 fell bats are great as well. The bats and wolves are fast due to Fly and Vanguard, respectively, while the spirits can hold up units due to being Ethereal.

jessedevaan 10-14-13 03:24 AM

@Dave , How about a mix?
@Ratvan , Will 45 Zombies do?
@Karnal, I would love to take Dire Wolves (ZOMBIE WOLVES!) but Mantic doesn't sell anything I can use.

Revised List

Vampire Lord 376p (Runs with Grave Guard)
- Heavy Armour
- Sword of Bloodshed
- Enchanted Shield
- Talisman of Endurance
- Ironcurse Icon
- Red Fury
- Lore of the Vampires

Necromancer 90p (Runs with Zombies 1)
- Lore of the Vampires
- Dispel Scroll

Necromancer 65p (Runs with Zombies 2)
- Lore of the Vampires

Wight King (1) 130p (Runs with Grave Guard)
- Ogre Blade
- Charmed Shield

Wight King (2) 160p (Runs with Grave Guard)
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Banner of Barrows

20 Ghouls (1) 210
- Ghast

20 Ghouls (2) 210
- Ghast

45 Zombies (1) 135

45 Zombies (2) 135

40 Grave Guards 485p
- Champion
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Lichebone Pennant

Total 1996p

Dave T Hobbit 10-14-13 03:42 PM

You do not have any characters in the Ghouls, so I suggest replacing the Ghasts with more rank-and-file.

I agree with Karnal, that some cheap drops would help; is there anything in the Mantic range that could be painted in glowing white to be a spirit host?


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