=][= Rumours Roundup : Chaos Space Marines - Updated : 09/09/2012
Rumoured Release Schedule
Q2-Q3 First 6E codex
General Codex Information
Author: Phil Kelly
State: Books is done
Other: Will be Hardcover
World Eaters (Khorne)
Khornate characters can nullify psychic abilities aimed at them
Has to engage in some kind of combat every turn or suffer a random d6 penalty result
Can only have 1 Havoc squad, can take more by "trading in" something else
Having a Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts
"Gladiator Themed Unit" Must keep killing in order to stop a timer in their heads from killing them, might be related to the d6 penalty mentioned above
Word Bearers (Chaos Undivided)
Dark Apostles can be split off as squad leaders
Daemonancer (Unit champion)
Summoning Daemons from the Warp, allowed re-rolls to scatter and new mishap chart
Can take Marked units but with restrictions
Turn 1 Daemon Summoning
Can only have 1 Heavy Support choice but get other bonuses to offset this
Possessed as Troops
Nightlords (Chaos Undivided)
Hit & Run
Counter Attack (For Elite Units)
Can only have 1 Heavy Support choice but get other bonuses to offset this
Raptors are Night Lords
Emperor's Children (Slaanesh)
Lash changed to be more like Daemon version
More heavy weapons for larger units
Chosen will be faster
d6 result said to be very harsh
Soul Shieldsman Unit, possibly an upgrade for Veterans
Feel No Pain and Blight Grenades for Terminators
Poisoned attacks ignore Armour Saves on a roll of a 6
Nurgle Flamers can be made poisoned 3+ or 2+ (possibly through a special character).
Plague Knives for Chosen/Possessed Poison 4+ Ignores Armour on 6s
Stoic special rule: Can't do sweeping advances
Iron Warriors (Chaos Undivided)
Terminators have access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
Iron-Fire Cannon (Thunder Fire Cannon)
Chaos Marine squads may take an additional heavy weapon once past 10 models
Siege Specialists: Tank Hunters and reduce Cover Saves on enemy units
Thousand Sons (Tzeentch)
New Psychic Powers, one of which can remove an entire squad on a failed stat test
Mindless, need command figure or suffer a d6 result to guide their actions
Sorcerers get something similar to a Psychic Hood but called something else
Higher strength/lower Ap weapons
Alpha Legion (Chaos Undivided)
Infiltrate upgrade for much of army
Temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles
Might be able to re-roll scenario
Greatest access to Imperial style vehicles
May force enemies to take Ld tests before they move or shoot
Black Legion (Chaos Undivided)
HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rule
Greatest selection of units/vehicles
All terminator army
All Book Specific
-Choice of HQ affects what types of units/marks available to your army
-CSM Retain Bolter, Bolt Pistol & Close Combat weapon
-New Heavy weapons, no Plasma Cannon
-Chaos units have built in negatives depending on God
-Rules for Traitor Guard
-Certain Named Characters grant various USRs and other special rules to Cultists when selected.
-Chaos units that kill a unit get to roll on a chart for gifts from a chaos lord very similar to the power from pain rule that Phil gave to DE.
2-for-1 HQ choices that can be split off, similar to Haemonculi, Priests and Wolf Guard
-Cult dedicated lists only
-All cult marines are Elites
-Special Characters unlock Cult Marines as troops (Kharn for Berserkers and so on)
-Remade into plastic
-No longer random
-Can take Marks
-Can't be Venerable
-Chainfist, Thunder Hammer, Power Scourge
-Said to be one in the 6E starter set
-More upgrade options
-All types of Combi-Weapons
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Certain HQ choices may be able to take a Chosen squad as retinue
Legion Specific Mounts
Disc mounted Rubrics
Beast mounted Plague Marines
Seekers mounted Noise Marines
-Skull Champions riding on Juggernauts
-May be Apocalypse formation yet to be released
Chaos Space Marines
-Said to be in starter set
-Typhus makes Cultists into Zombies, gain FNP and Fearless
-Can be taken in groups of 30+
-Not available to World Eaters
God specific Daemons
-Same as Daemons codex but slight points adjustments to reflect the ability to summon them and 6E changes
-Lesser and Greater Demons are gone
Rubric Marines (Thousand Sons)
-New psychic powers instead of weapon options
-More upgrades for unit and Sorcerer
-3 Hull Points
-Can be marked
-Berserkers with jump packs
Locust (No FOC slot rumour, put in FA for the time being)
-Small, fast, single seater Chaos Flyer which features heavily in the Sabbat World's Crusade
-Chaos equivalent of an Imperial Lightning.
-Model done and part of initial release
-Larger packs and able to take Marks
-Replaced by "Fell Beasts"
-Remade into plastic
-Night Lords only
-Nurgle Bikes, have Stoic rule so may not perform sweeping advances (Wouldn't this make them T6? Now that'd be annoying to kill)
-Attack Bikes or similar may be included
-Something "sort of" like a Landspeeder may be available
-Different versions for Legions and Marks
-Maximum unit size increased to 4
-May take none energy-based weapons
-Remade in Plastic or Finecast
-Options will be even more expansive with close combat load out available
-3 per FOC slot
-Might be a Tzeentchian one
-New Legion specific LR with higher transport capacity (possibly 15)
-Described as a "warped version of one of the Imperial versions"
-Version of Power of the Machine Spirit
-4 Hull Points
-Not Greater Daemon but can have Marks
-Not all Legions can take one, Night Lords and Alpha Legion can not
-More weapon options similar to Razorbacks
-Twin Linked Plasmagun turret with single Plasmagun sponsons
-Legions may have access to a Daemonic weapons platform comparable to the Thunderfire Cannon (Iron-fire Cannon mentioned in the Legions section?)
-Chaos answer to GK Dreadknight
-4 Hull Points
-Daemon Forge: Roll a D6, on a 1 you lose a Hull Point. Ability allows for Reroll all To Wound and Armour Penetration rolls from Shooting
The Soul Hunter
-Unit upgrade, presumably for a Bike squad
Unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?)
Kharn the Betrayer
-4+ Inv save
-"His bloodshed knows no bounds"
-Psychic power that can't be stopped with Psychic Hood
-Level 4 Psyker
-Gives D3 units Infiltrate
-Makes Cultists into Zombies
-Unlocks Plague Marines as Troops
Lucius the Eternal
-Gets extra attacks from WS difference when in a Challenge
Iron Warrior character with servo harness
Model Releases, 4 Waves planned
Iron Warriors character with huge servo harness
Obliterators remade in finecast or plastic
Plastic Chaos Drop Pod
New Plastic Chaos Bike kit (Rumoured Attack Bike?)
Legion specific heads and shoulder sprue
Power Armour and Terminator bits could be separate
Cult terminators have been sighted, but could be conversion or above mentioned kit
New Kharn the Betrayer
"Bulkier and still ferocious in motion"
Special Character box including:
Unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?)
Kharn the Betrayer
Lucius the Eternal
Some more rumours from Faeit 212
Big rumours dump from Faeit yet again
And yet again, Faeit has some rumours
Small tidbit about Angron
Stickmonkey has some release dates for us
Starter Set prices and Teaser Trailer
CSM release info from Faeit 212
Starter set WD pictures
More info on the models in the starter
PA Chaos Lord
Chosen with Power Maul
Chosen with Lightning Claws
Some small tidbits today (the hell is a "tidbit" anyway? :crazy:)
Will CSM be the first codex to have every single new model released within a month? This rumour claims so :D
Lots of interesting rumours popped up today, seems we will be seeing some Chaos really soon, 2 more weeks to be exact.
Legion sprues might be headed our way, sounds similar to the upgrade sprues currently available for BT, DA and SW
Some more rumours regarding the new dragon flier
Some info regarding the Daemon changes and units in the WD
Video of the new WD is up, it contains a rules update for the new Daemon models
You can find pictures from the WD here
BoKs first big rumours dumb is here
BoK has slowly started on their rumours dump. Seems CSM will have Hatred Adeptus Astartes which does make sense. Hmm, come to think of it Sisters of Battle would have Hatred Everyone since they fight Witchcraft, Heresy and Mutation and everyone falls into either :crazy:
Some info on Daemons
We are getting close to the launch of something, if it's CSM or something else...
Faeit 212 is one of the best places for rumours these days, here is another bit
Faeit 212 has received some interesting information. If the WD has been pushed back there might not be any leaks next week. Seems there will be LOADS of 40K coming out in the next 3 months, does that mean there will be another 6month dryspell where nothing is released due to The Hobbit?
If CSM is really to be released in Sep what can we expect for August? Seems we might be getting some fliers, we should know for sure next week when the leaks starts popping up.
CSM codex is now being sent to warehouses around the world, a release of September 1st and the Chaos Dragon thing is in (then again these are still rumours)
6E Starter Set contents have been leaked, the chaos part of it is exactly as has been rumoured for months. Dreadnought name seems to be Hellbeast, the picture from the rulebook I posted had the name The Hell Feaster. So perhaps different region name as the leak is from China?
Because the rumour mill is pretty dried up I figured I'd add this. The new FAQs are out and all of them have been named Codex Name 6th Ed V1, all except CSM which is just Chaos Space Marine 6th.
I guess this is because it's the next codex and there would be no need for a CSM V1. I'm 100% sure it will require some FAQs to fix it's problems when it comes out but that might get named differently or they didn't name this one V1 so they could use that name for when the new CSM FAQ does come out.
Yeah, nothing interesting going around atm....
So I got my hands on the new 6E BRB today, when flipping trough it I came across this on page 397. There is a lineup of illustrated models, all of which look pretty much exactly like the plastic miniature in question... all except one...
So is this what the new Chaos Dreadnought will look like? I'd like to think so, as why else would the have a line up of model illustrations and add something new they wont use at the end?
Darnok has some rumours regarding the release of CSM, it does fit in with the late July rumour we have now. Perhaps pre-orders in late July and August 4th release?
A scan of the Generic Psyhic Powers was posted by Wez today in the 6E Rumours thread. Interesting list indeed though odd that Chaos Daemons can't use any of the generic psyhic powers. CSM have access to Pyromancy, Telekinesis and Telepathy. I find it really odd they dont have Biomancy as some of the Thousand Sons were Biomancers and healers. Heck even Divination was something they could do, predicting the future to dodge attacks or warn allies of ambushes.
Maybe Thousand Sons and Tzeentch will have an exception rule allowing them to take any of the schools of magic.
Translation from the Spanish WD
Codex: Chaos Space Marines
- Any model with psychic powers may use the psychic disciplines found in the 40k Rulebook instead of the C:CSM. If you choose to do so, for every psychic power that you have paid for from C:CSM you make take 1 psychic power from the following disciplines: Piromancy? Telekinesis or Telepathy before deployment. Models may choose to get their powers from different disciplines. Typhus generates 2 powers, Ahriman generates 3 powers.
tDG has more rumours today, I thought the starter was to be released in September? If it really is CSM vs DA why would they release the starter set at the same time as the CSM launch leaving the DA codex outdated? DA WD codex at same time? Sounds really weird but it is GW we are talking about...
Not only is it my dogs 5th birthday today we get some rumours as well
theDarkGeneral and Stickmonkey have some more chaos rumours for us
More rumours about the small Daemons wave said to be coming this August. Why 5 Plague Bearers in a box though? Why not 10 when all the others are 10? Meh, it's GW and they probably think they can make more money this way... it's not like they've never done it like this before...
Faeit 212 has some interesting rumours for us today
Very quiet on the rumours front at the moment, hopefully the floodgates will open up in a few weeks. Until then here is another quote from tDG
2 boxes of plastic daemon troops? Plaguebearers and Nurglings?
With a month of just the same rumours being posted over and over we finally get something interesting
Guess it's time for the yearly price rise again...
Tau with Dark Eldar for instance (After what the DE did to the Tau I doubt they'd every want to ally with the DE again, DE would love to ally with the Tau though so I guess this is why they can.
CSM are pretty much what you'd expect while SoB dont like any SM chapter at all (which makes sense because of all the shit they've had to take from the Spheeze Mehreenez).
Psyker Disciplines in 6E, sounds really interesting but I really hope there is none of that random spells there is in WFB
A 2012 release rumour list, so far it's been pretty
Stickmonkey has some flier rumours
BOLS has a few rumours about cultists today
People have been raging about about TastyTastes rumour about Chaos Dreads being gone but that's pretty much impossible if you take into consideration all the Forge World dreadnoughts and weapons. Such a thing would invalidate all of them and sounds utterly ridiculous, which is why it sounded plausible as it's GW we are talking about. A new rumour "corrects" TastyTaste saying that dreads are still in but simply renamed and getting a complete overhaul, not really sure why a renaming would be necessary as a dread is still a dread no matter how messed up it is. Then we have the Chaos flying Dragon thing, all armies have been getting fliers and Chaos will of course not be an exception. Will they get 2 fliers? Locust and the Dragon?
TastyTaste as put up some rumours today, breaking his site as always.
Rules for traitor guard sounds really cool but does it mean actual unit entries or just some allied rules?
TastyTaste over at BoK posted a release schedule rumour today, a pretty horrifying one at that. Then again it could be true as Fantasy had to wait a long time for army book updates after their new edition of the game.
So now we have 2 sets of release rumours, one so jam packed with 40K it seems to be too much 40k in too short a time span and this rumour with almost no codex updates this year but allot of model releases instead.
An interesting release schedule rumour popped up today, including some 6E starter box content rumours.
An interesting rumour popped up today, after Necrons in May we will get 6E, Chaos and DA pretty much hand in hand. Does this mean 6E and 2 dexes (dicies for u grammar nerds) in the same month?
Personally I could see something like this:
May 5th Necron 2nd Wave
Mid May Fantasy, anything missing from the Empire army book?
June 6E and a Codex (My money would be on CSM)
August Dark Angels
September 6E Starter box
This does seem weird though, so perhaps:
July 6E and Codex
September Codex and Starter set
Too much 40k too close to each other...
Some bad rumours for Chaos just popped up, I guess time will tell just what we get. Never heard about drbored on the rumours mill before so not sure how accurate he is or has been in the past
Some more stuff from theDarkGeneral and Stickmonkey
Another small bit from theDarkGeneral
Last year we had "Summer of Fliers", this year we have "Autumn of Fliers", personally I think the new Autumn of Fliers rumours seem plausible if we get flier rules in the 6E rulebook. Every army since Tyranids (except for Space Wolves and Sisters of Battle (though that WD piece of shit doesn't count)) has received a flier of some sort, if we do indeed get flier rules in 6E then GW will be forced to put out some fliers for their precious Spheezee Mehreenez especially if Chaos Legions is the first 6E codex and includes a chaos flier. Anyways, here are some rumours from Stickmonkey who was the source behind last years "Summer of Fliers" rumour.
Another quote from theDarkGeneral
And yet another post from theDarkGeneral
Nothing new but interesting none the less
Another small note by theDarkGeneral
Yet again some more from theDarkGeneral, mostly wishlisting but interesting none the less
The last part of this is interesting yet contradicting at the same time.
Here is how that works:
Rage: You can move as you want but if you come within 12" of a VISIBLE unit you have to do a morale check at the start of the movement phase. If failed you must charge and assault the nearest visible unit. For every raging model lost in the unit the roll is modified by -1. Ignores the rule while broken, embarked or no enemy visible.
Dont know how reliable theDarkGeneral is but this rumour is interesting none the less, updating info to reflect it
Updated the thread with all the information from all rumour threads out there I could find. If you think something is missing please send me a link.
As there has been an increase in the amount of Chaos Legions rumours (and that Tau rumours have all but gone extinct) I'm throwing together this compilation. If there is anything you think is missing please send me a pm with a link to the rumours or information. First set of rumours is from a compilation by Faeit 212: Warhammer 40k News and Rumors
I do think CSM are the first sixth edition book but not sure if they come just before or just after 6th edition.
theDarkGeneral contradicts this, saying he has heard of 3 separate Legions books with an even split of Legions in each. He claims 2 are planned for release in 2012 and the third for early 2013. He further claims a “Lost and the Damned” style book and a “largely Daemon-based” campaign book are in the works for after that.
theDarkGeneral was supposedly given the Legion split breakdown as:
*World Eaters, Word Bearers and Nightlords
*Deathguard, Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children
*Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Black Legion
theDarkGeneral more recently began supporting the Legions / Renegades split, agreeing that the current CSM Dex will be tweaked in White Dward and called Chaos Renegades.
Jared Van Kell say Mat Ward is rumoured to be writing the codex.
Reds8n contradicts this, saying Ward is tied up with other projects (likely LotR or Hobbit related) and that Phil Kelly will be writing this book. theDarkGeneral has recently agreed with this.
Minor Gods will supposedly make an appearance and all Legions will be included
The minor Gods are named, and will act in a similar way to marks, but have no Daemons.
the background will include info on “alliances, distrust and full fledged war within the 9 Traitor Legions” with Black Legion referred to as "arrogant"
Each Legion will have something unique to them, but will have unit restrictions to offset their inherent bonuses
it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...
*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.
*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!
Word Bearers: Will be able to take Marked units but with some restrictions. Apparently with all the current Black Library Books out on them (I'm enjoying their reads!), and mention of the Sanctified in Siege of Vraks, the ability to take Marked units has been brought up. Not sure how they'll do this, if it'll be a 1 unit for 1 unit.
Word Bearers are "zealots" and benefit from Chaplains as well as Turn 1 Daemon Summoning. New Daemonancers models are suppose to be SICK looking, but I believe just unit champ upgrades.
*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.
Death Guard gain a new ability (maybe Chosen squads only ?) that allows their poisoned attacks to ignore Armor Saves on a roll of a '6', much similar to Rending without the extra Armor Pen.
*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!
*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...
Iron Warriors: Their Cult Terminators will have access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shields, as well as Iron-Fire Cannon (thunder fire). Basic Chaos Marine squads "may" be able to take an additional heavy weapons team once past 10 models...
Iron Warriors become "siege specialists" which equivalents to Tank Hunters and reducing cover saves on enemy units!
*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...
Emperor's Children have a haughtiness to them, but prideful, which may give them counter charge (on top of their already higher Initiative). More heavy weapons upgrades per squad, and their Chosen will be...scary fast!
*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!
Alpha Legion: Hardest to get info on, but "might" be able to force a re-roll on the type of scenario?! This honestly sounds more like a Special Character ability to me...but we'll see...
Alpha Legion apparently have the greatest access to Imperial style vehicles, as well as more of an unlimited Force Org slot selections, next to the Black Legion. Much of their Army will be able to upgrade to "Infiltrators".
Alpha Legion may force enemies to take Ld tests before they move or shoot.
*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.
Black Legion, aka Sons of Horus, aka Luna Wolves are tentatively stubborn, and have greatest selection amongst the units/vehicles. HOWEVER, they're not fully trusted, not sure how this works out in game terms.
World Eaters truly become the combat monsters they're story lined to be. Marked Dreads, and Daemon Engines will be a prime staple in most Armies...
Chaos will likely struggle to combat psykers, but Khornate characters will have ways of nullifying psychic abilities aimed at them
Nurgle Flamers can be made poisoned 3+ or even 2+ (possibly through a special character).
He also thinks Plague Knives will be poisoned 4+ with 6s ignoring Armour Saves. Although he goes on to say it’s likely only unit champions and Chosen/Possessed that get them.
the majority of CSM units will retain Bolter, Bolt Pistol & Close Combat Weapon.
Daemonic Mounts will be useful, with the Undivided version "worth while" for non-Marked Legions. He also implied that Tzeentchian ones will be fast, saying “Thousand Sons will be VERY pleased with their new found speed.”
there may be an additional heavy weapon upgrade for Chaos units, but was supposedly told it's not a Plasma Cannon
we will see the return of Droomrider, Doombreed, and Cypher as well as another 5 new characters. This does not preclude any or all existing special characters being included.
there will be a Slaaneshi Dreadnaught special character.
Ahriman will be better due to new Chaos Psychic powers as well as "some kind of guaranteed psychic ability that can't be stopped via Psychic Hoods, etc"
several special characters look to be getting varying levels of Eternal Warrior (1-3), including Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus and two more.
there will be more options for "mid-level" characters possibly able to be taken as 2-for-1 HQ choices, or possibly "as a separate Elite or Fast or Troop choice that can be split off" The example he gave was a possible unit of Dark Apostles that can then split off as squad leaders. This could end up being a sort of Wolf Guard unit, it is not yet clear.
Chaos Dreadnaughts will no longer act randomly, and are able to take marks, but will not be able to be Venerable.
Possessed will be improved and supposedly have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.
Chosen will get more upgrade options, but that they will get costly quickly depending on the Legion and wargear you select. Wargear options for them supposedly include Jump Packs, Terminator Armour, all types of Combi-Weapons, Twin Lightning Claws and more.
There is a chance that certain HQ choices can take a Chosen squad as a retinue.
a new unit called Brazen Knights consisting of "Skull Champions" (possibly super Khornate CSM Champions) riding Juggernauts. He has more recently suggested that this could in fact be an Apocalypse formation to be released around the same time.
early discussions included the idea of Legion-specific “Daemonic Rider” units, such as Disc mounted Rubrics, Beast mounted Plague Marines, Seeker mounted Noise Marines, and the previously mentioned “Brazen Knights”, but went on to imply development may have stalled because of the question, “What would the other Traitor Legions get?”
there will be some kind of “Scout unit” which will not be available to World Eaters.
God-specific Daemons will likely be included
Daemons will remain as they are in the Daemons Codex, but with slight points adjustments to reflect the ability to summon them and certain 6th edition changes.
Thousand Sons (Rubric Marines) will not get any weapon options, but the new psychic powers can certainly fill that role. He has more recently suggested they may get more unit upgrades, especially for the SGT/Sorcerer.
“Assault Berserkers” with jump packs will be available as Fast Attack choices.
Spawn may possibly come in larger packs and gain the ability to be Marked
Slaughterfiends from Apoc will be available, as well as versions for other Legions and Marks.
Obliterators maximum unit size is increased to 4 and may lose the restriction to just energy-based weapons.
most types of Daemon Engines can be taken as 3 per FOC slot. He has also implied that there may be a Tzeentchian one.
Legions will get a new Landraider pattern with a higher transport capacity (possibly 15) and is described as a "warped version of one of the Imperial versions”
It is also rumoured that Land Raiders will get a version of Power of the Machine Spirit
Marked Legions are rumoured to get Havocs
the possibility of a new Monstrous Creature that is not a Greater Daemon but can have Marks of the Gods. Not all Legions can take one. For example Night Lords and the Alpha Legion are supposedly unable to take one. No further info is available as yet.
Chaos may get more Predator weapon options similar to Razorbacks, revealing that one of these options could be a Twin Linked Plasmagun turret with single Plasmagun sponsons.
viaJared Van Kell
Honsou will make an appearance.
Kharn the Betrayer will become more survivable (likely due to Eternal Warrior and a 4+ Invulnerable save) but goes on to say “his bloodshed knows no bounds”
Cult Terminators are likely to return under the proviso that they will only appear in dedicated cult lists.
Plastic Dreadnaught rumoured by Jared Van Kell from Liberium Online and theDarkGeneral. TheDarkGeneral claims it will include multiple Dreadnought close combat weapons types, such as the Chainfist, Thunder Hammer, Power Scourge, etc.
75hastings69 claims there will be one in the 6th edition starter set.
Plastic Plague Bearers rumoured to appear in the 6th edition started. This has more recently been denied by 75hastings69.
Darnok has said that plastic Plaguebearers on round bases have been sighted, indicating that if they are not in the starter box, they may have a full kit in the works.
Plastic Raptors have been confirmed by the ever-reliable 75hastings69
I can add to this that the new plastic Raptors are very nice
Also supported by Jared Van Kell who also claims they may come a little later.
Darnok says there is a possibility of new Obliterators, although he is unable to say if they will be plastic or Finecast.
theDarkGeneral has said he's heard about a brand new Chaos Bike kit (not just recut) with lots of bits. No further information available.
theDarkGeneral claims there will be some way of converting Legion-specific models using a sprue of heads and shoulder pads which will fit all Power Armour kits. These would be Direct Only much like the Deff Rolla sprue for the Ork Battlewagon.
What I heard was a box with the bits to make different legions.
But I thought this was something to do with Chaos Space Marines and the kit including various heads, spiky bits and icons to make different flavours of Chaos Marines.
theDarkGeneral has elaborated somewhat, saying Power Armour and Terminator bits could be separate:
So basically, all the Legions will buy the same boxed set for the majority of their models, but to make them Legion specific, separate sprues will be sold which will include shoulder pads, heads, banners, few weapons, etc. Terminators will also get separate sprues made available to them to become Legion specific.
Darnok tells us that painted versions of all 4 cult terminators have been sighted, but that they could be conversions. It is also possible they were built using the above rumoured sprues.
ant1clock let us know his local GW told him that the Thousand Sons kit is no longer available because they are moving to Finecast. It is unclear if this means a new, all Finecast kit, or if the existing metal components will move to FC.
Kharn the Betrayer– Rumoured new miniature is described by Jared Van Kell as “bulkier and still ferocious in motion”
There’s some chatter about a boxed set featuring a named character from every legion. Jared Van Kell has implied this will be Horus Axiamand, Honsou, an unknown Raptor Lord (Night Lords?), Kharn the Betrayer, Ahriman, Typhus, and Lucius the Eternal. This could be where conflicting reports of the inclusion of some characters has come from.
an Iron Warriors character (?) has been seen, with a huge servo harness
Awesome, the Daemon Engines, could these be similar to the FW Blood Slaughterer?
You start reading the massive list of things that might be coming and then start thinking there's a lot of wish-listng there. And then the whole plasma-predator thing, which I first read about when someone was hoping the DA's would get that... maybe cross contamination.
Who knows, at least it looks like there will be some cool things and some changes. I'm hoping for more fluff, especially about the legions we know little about (same as I'm hoping for fluff on white scars, imperial fists and iron hands in the next codex:sm really).
I have to agree with Rev, thats alot of new toys, but then again chaos is drastically in need of a revamp and almost from the ground up, they have some serviceable plastics but compared to many races they are seriously lagging behind, that said GW normally put out about 3 plastics a month and we get about four 40k releases a year give or take so thats only about 12 new plastics so unless they are gonna spread the releases over a longer period i can see some of that stuff being wish listing.
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