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Blackadder 03-10-12 03:56 PM

Blackadders Warlord Work in Progress
Okay so here's the deal, I photo-shopped the image and made a static front view that prints out a model exactly 24 inches tall (On my printer using my editor's print graph I hasten to add). I'm satisfied that this is viable height for a Warlord towering almost 2.5 times the height of a Warhound.

Now that I have the overall height I'll remove the armour and draw in the structural detail.

BTW that's 24 inches to the lower margin of the image because we mustn't forget the foot pads.


I calculate the center disk of the foot to be about 3.625 inches in diameter.

Blackadder 03-10-12 03:58 PM

Here comes the weekend and I'll be playing to an empty room. I did manage to cut out most of the basic components of both feet and hope to have them glued together this weekend. I used 2.0 mm for the tread base and the rest is 1.0 mm styrene. This beastie is going to consume a lot of plastic but the fabrication will be a lot easier as all the material will be the same so no problem with glue compatibility which is a big plus.

I'll just add this on:

The octagons are the center of the foot pads and are 2.0 mm thick and about 5.0 x 4.5 inches the larger boxes to the right are the front and back toes and the smaller boxes at the extreme left are the side toes. Both sets of these toes will be movable with hinges. The truncated toe pieces to the far right may or mayn't be movable as I haven't planned that far as yet but the disc will tilt side to side and the top surface will house a semicircular gear shape which will allow the entire foot to tilt forward and aft. This should afford a full range of motion to the feet. The semicircle will have a countersunk screw for the axis and a pal nut on the other side to provide the tension to maintain the various poses.




Ambitious? yes;

Possible? most probably,

Crazy? almost certainly.

Ah but if it works Priceless!

Blackadder 03-10-12 05:12 PM

I'm trying a different approach and actually planning my work before hand. That in mind I am not the neatest mechanical drawer but it is as true to scale as I need for gov'ment work.

These images should print out 1:1 on 8.5 X 11 paper

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This is the size I can up with for a 24 inch Warlord titan. The entire foot will cover a Baneblade tank front tread to exhaust stacks and sponson to sponson which I believe is quite awesome enough considering a Baneblade is as large as my entire house i.e. 30 X 40 feet.



khrone forever 03-10-12 05:29 PM

this is very ambitious but fucking awsome

DecrepitDragon 03-10-12 06:54 PM

You sir, are mad. :shok:

However, madness is but a fine line away from genius, and I was never sure what side of the line I was looking from, so my perspective may be skewed a little. :biggrin:

I shall be watching from my suitably padded room (in case I get over excited), and will be interested to see just how bloody brilliant it turns out, as its already seeming to be. :victory:

Blackadder 03-11-12 05:55 PM

I finished all the basic toes and suspended my printout above the feet and Damn me it looks right. The Greaves still have the side frames armour to be added and once the body is bulked up I think you would want a good solid base to stand on.



shaantitus 03-11-12 11:03 PM

Oh dear. Blackadder is at it again. Is this a diversion from finishing the thunderhawk? If so it will be a very impressive diversion. One question though, are you planning to do this one to the same standard as lucie? If so it will be rather spectacular.Rep for the ambitious project and being one of the few people who can reliably pull this off.

Blackadder 03-12-12 12:38 AM

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My goal is to duplicate the Dave Smith Warlord but with pose-able legs and feet. I am torn between the Dave Smith camo or an olive green. I really can't imagine War Griffon colours on this model but at least to the standard of Lucie but with an interior.

I needed a break from the T'hawk after I built the engines. They were very time consuming and it got so I was thinking good enough. When that happens I have to stop working on the model because good enough is never good enough.

Blackadder 03-13-12 09:16 PM

I know I'm gonna reap a lot of flack for ignoring the T'hawk but I'm on a roll with this project and will ride it for all it's worth.

This new enthusiasm is refreshing as working on the T'hawk was becoming tedious but already I'm looking at it with fresh ideas

The toes of Chrysagon coming along nicely an if I have to make the body a few inches taller so be it.




shaantitus 03-13-12 09:42 PM

The dave smith warlors is an impressive piece of work. I saw that a while ago and would have to say it is the best warlord i have seen to date. Although that may be changing.......

elmir 03-13-12 10:03 PM


But if anybody can pull it off, it's you. I'm sure the detail will be as impressive as the thunderhawk was. :)

Blackadder 03-13-12 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by shaantitus (Post 1179390)
The dave smith warlors is an impressive piece of work. I saw that a while ago and would have to say it is the best warlord i have seen to date. Although that may be changing.......

My ambition is to at least equal Dave Smith's Magnum Opus. If I approach that I shall be satisfied.

Disciple_of_Ezekiel 03-15-12 10:34 AM

Impressive Sir! Seeing what you have done thus far with your TH, I am sure you can pull this off...tho time consuming as hell, I think you can do it.

Good luck mate!


Blackadder 03-18-12 12:05 AM

Thats the way I like it especially to have two irons in the fire so there is always a hot one. or is that burning a candle at both ends?




Blackadder 03-18-12 07:09 PM

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Plodding along as is my wont I successfully attached the step pyramid style ends of the toes this morning which for the life of me serve no earthly purpose other than aesthetic appeal. (If you like toes.... Jabba )

Mine differ from DS's in that they are slightly wider but the overall design is the same.

Accompanying the feet are some figures to convey scale donated by my son.

TheReverend 03-18-12 07:45 PM

this will be awesome!

Blackadder 03-18-12 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Blackadder (Post 1182228)
Plodding along as is my wont I successfully attached the step pyramid style ends of the toes this morning which for the life of me serve no earthly purpose other than aesthetic appeal. (If you like toes.... Jabba )

Mine differ from DS's in that they are slightly wider but the overall design is the same.

Accompanying the feet are some figures to convey scale donated by my son.

Okay seriously now judging by the size of a normal human being and the size of these feet can anyone say that a 2/3 meter tall Warlord on a battle board will be anything less than awesome unless you have a serious penchant for the ridiculously absurd!

I mean think about it each foot is as big as a Baneblade tank!

Disciple_of_Ezekiel 03-18-12 11:05 PM


Looking great thus far mate, keep it up!


Blackadder 03-20-12 09:25 PM

A bit further along on the disc mount mechanism placed but not glued are the rough cylinder trunnion mount blocks which are in essence pairs of pillow block bearings. Not glued because I don't know how much distance I need for the cylinder travel and still allow the disc plate a full range of tilt. mebbe I should do a drawing.




aboytervigon 03-20-12 11:16 PM

"Sergeant what do we do if we get hit by a warlord titan"

"well Rickbald standard procedure is to leap 10000 feat in the air and scatter yourself over a large area"

Blackadder 03-21-12 09:13 PM

RedThirstWill Destroy 03-21-12 11:57 PM

Oh my god, this is going to be a work of pure art!!!!!

I understand how you feel when you get so drawn into one project, it's nice to just drop it for a while and do something different it means when u come back to it you feel fresh again and stops you from hating it! I'm the same when it comes to painting, I'll have three, four or sometimes five on the go at once.

Keep it up mate its really good

KjellThorngaard 03-22-12 04:35 AM

You have a great start going on. I believe the planning and thinking you are doing will make a differance in the long run. I will be watching this for the sheer lunacy of trying, and the awesomeness of the idea.

+Rep for the brass ones to try this.

Blackadder 03-22-12 08:10 PM

I appreciate the responses and the subscriptions but just so you know 'The Blackadder' is very prone to mistakes. I spent half a day building the pistons receiving the cylinders on the discs and after forming them and starting to install them found that they were totally unnecessary!

Since they are totally hidden inside the ankle discs whats the point of even installing them? added work more parts to fail; who needs that so eliminated. But all is not lost, they may be useful in another area and if nothing else they keep me humble.

They are shown in the left forground.

So who would know they are even missing :*)

Blackadder 03-24-12 08:46 AM

It's extremely gratifying to envision something in your mind's eye and then to duplicate it in some medium. In this case extremely malleable styrene but I can see how real engineers get their rocks off. Granted the days of Isambard Kingdom Brunel and John Scott Russell are pretty much over where an engineer designs and executes an entire construct but I'm sure even today such gratification must still exist.

Case in point, this highly speculative tilting table mechanism for the foot attachment.

I believe I have come up with a viable solution to allow the foot to tilt side to side, be light and strong and also look complex enough to grace a 40K denizen.

Were I to build this for a real vehicle I would enclose the axle within the disc housing so the table doesn't shift side to side as much but then the mechanism would be totally hidden. so this way I have an excuse for the diagonal toes linear actuator system that give enhanced stability during the stepping process and decreases the upper body swaying which is the cause of so much seasickness in some Warhound crew members.

That's my story and I stick with it :P

When I see how much of this system will actually be visible I may fancy it up a bit using some of mxwllmdr's lightened girder and buttress techniques.

The beauty of this construct is it can be disassembled for maintenance, painting and repair.

Blackadder 03-28-12 09:00 PM

This mornings run adding a bit of detail and checking the relative sizes.


jonileth 03-28-12 09:45 PM

A very solid development of the design so far!

Turnip86 03-28-12 11:30 PM

This is ridiculously awesome and yet it's still just feet.

It's still difficult to put the scale into perspective though, kinda hard to imagine that it's going to end up the size of a small child and just as destructive.

Blackadder 03-29-12 09:08 PM

My initial drawing was for a vehicle 24 inches tall. I have since revised that to 25 to 26 inches tall. Hopefully no taller.

Blackadder 04-01-12 10:17 AM

Back to business:

Before I close up the workings of the feet perhaps a demo of the hinges I came up with to allow the side toes to flex.

At tis point they can flex up and down but once the box like hydraulic compartments at the base of the toes are installed upward movement will be restricted.





Blackadder 04-01-12 02:15 PM

Anyway it's the weekend baby and I'm hot modeling-wise I hope to have the front and rear toes mounted today.


Blackadder 04-02-12 09:31 PM

Well the weekend is over and in a flurry of productiveness I managed to attach one front toe With hinge as planned and it works and seems relatively strong

Now the diagonal stabilizers need a bit of work but nothing extraordinary and they do allow the foot to flex so there's no cause for concern. I can't mount the back toes yet as I have to find 3/8 dia light springs to stabilize the disc; much better than my piston cylinder design, a suggestion from Zathros, a Moderator on another forum and to whom I say thanks.





elmir 04-03-12 08:28 AM

The fact that this is an insanely detailed titan that is scratch build from the ground up is just insane when you stop and think about it.

It having moving and articulating joints is mindblowing! Pure genious man...

Blackadder 04-03-12 03:22 PM

You say insane like it's a good thing?

I found some 1/2 inch springs 1 inch tall and set about modifying the disc stabilizing system to accept them. I have to admit it works rather well.



Blackadder 04-05-12 09:06 PM

Not too much to show for this mornings work; the reinforcements for the diagonal stabilizers are installed and the second front toe mount hinge is drying. The stabilizers do not appear to interfere with the toe movement and they appear a close fit to the mounted disc, about a millimeter clearance. I should be starting on the shank of the leg this weekend if the holiday doesn't interfere too much.



ThumperHS 04-05-12 09:23 PM


This is a fantastic build :so_happy:

Blackadder 04-07-12 12:42 AM

Thank you,

With the paranoia of machine shop precision I managed to drill and tap two perfect (with apologies to Werner Heisenberg) holes with a 10-32 tap for my axle shafts. Tack glue them in place and set aside to dry and for photos.




KjellThorngaard 04-07-12 04:57 AM

The amount of work you are putting into unseen parts is amazing. Working hinges and joints, spring-stabilized parts, holy cow!

But do you apply sacred ungents and oils after praying for the Omnissiah to guide and bless your work? :biggrin:

Blackadder 04-07-12 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by KjellThorngaard (Post 1194479)
The amount of work you are putting into unseen parts is amazing. Working hinges and joints, spring-stabilized parts, holy cow!

But do you apply sacred ungents and oils after praying for the Omnissiah to guide and bless your work? :biggrin:

I have to admit I do get great pleasure from working on these models but I do draw the line at the necessity of the use of unguents and oils.:biggrin:

shaantitus 04-07-12 09:19 PM

Werner Heisenberg will forgive your transgressions with regards to the uncertainty principle this once. Carry on.

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