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Hey guys! I'm just starting to build an orcs and goblins army after moving on from WoC and was hoping to get your advice on the sorts of units to use in a competitive list. I mostly play against skaven and elves for which I've heard that OnG are probably not the best choice :S but anyway here's my list so far, any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated!!!

Lords
Savage orc great shaman - lv.4, lucky shrunken head - 255pts

Heros
Black orc big boss - bsb, dragon helm - 125pts
Night goblin shaman - lv.2, ds - 110pts

Core
49x Night goblins - netters, hw&s, fc - 272pts
38x Savage orc big 'un - ahw, fc - 453pts

Special
20x Black orcs - shields, fc - 295pts
3x Trolls - 105pts

Rare
2x Doom diver catapults - 160pts
Rock lobber - bully - 95pts
2x Mangler squigs - 130pts
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Forgot to mention that I put 2x fanatics with the night goblin unit.
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Since you obviously are running the Savage Orc Shaman in the unit of Savage Orcs ('duh !), I'd probably beef him up with the Fencing Blades for WS 10, to protect him some more from incoming attacks.

I suspect the Black Orc BSB is joining the very same unit to Quell Animosity.

That leaves you with a lot of your eggs in one single basket ( > 700 pts.), way too much for my taste, but some people do well with deathstar units.

Quintessentially, you're sporting very very few units for a game of 2.000 pts.
At least where my meta would be concerned, but of course that can vary a lot due to whom and where you play.

49 Night Gobbos are going nowhere without the support of some goblin / night goblin characters.
Take two smaller units with short bows instead for more tactical flexibility.

3 Trolls .... yeah, might be okay as a flanking unit kept close to the BSB. I'd go for 6 eventually.

Ditch the unit champion on the Black Orcs and pick up the Standard of Discipline for +1 LD.

Nothing to comment on the 'Rares' selection, more or less what one would expect in most lists.


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Awesome, cheers for the reply! Do you recommend fanatics and netters in the two units of night goblin archers?
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Netters are fun (and effective) in a Night Goblin unit tailored to serve as an anvil (I.E. 60+ gobbos with melee weapons and bucket full of cheap-ass characters beefing them up), but I wouldn't bother with them in a 20-25 model unit of archers. They'll die either way once they're in close combat.

Fanatics ... they can cause some serious damage / wreck havoc in case your opponent is unprepared for them or does not know how to counter them. Again, depends on your metagame. A Fanatic can be fun in a small unit of archers, but I probably wouldn't spare the points. If you feel like it and had success with them, then more power to you !

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Ok thanks dude! Here's the new revised list.

Lords
Savage orc great shaman - lv.4, lucky shrunken head - 255pts

Heros
Black orc big boss - bsb, shield - 117pts
Night goblin shaman - lv.1, ds - 75pts
Night goblin shaman - lv.1, ruby ring - 75pts

Core
20x Night goblin - bows, 2x fanatics - 110pts (NG shaman)
20x Night goblin - bows, 2x fanatics - 110pts (NG shaman)
28x Savage orc big unz - ahw, fc - 343pts (Great shaman & Black orc boss)

Special
20x Black orcs - shields, musician, sb, standard of discipline - 295pts
5x Trolls - 175pts

Rare
2x Doom diver catapults - 160pts
Rock lobber - 85pts
2x Mangler squigs - 130pts
Pumpwagon - out-rigga, spikey roller - 70pts

Not sure if the 2 night goblin shaman should be separate from the units or not?
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One shaman per archer unit. Or, ditch one of them and put the Scroll and the Ruby Ring on just one shaman.
Keep the musicians on the gobbo archers for swift reform and firing !!
And try to keep the Dragonhelm on the Black Orc. Black Orc hero & mundane shield & Dragonhelm is a pretty effective build.

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Thanks for the help! Here's the new list,

Lords
Savage orc great shaman - lv.4, lucky shrunken head - 255pts

Heros
Black orc big boss - bsb, shield, dragon helm - 127pts
Night goblin shaman - lv.2, ds - 110pts
Goblin big boss - gw, light armour - 41pts (don't know about this, like the idea though! )

Core
20x Night goblins - bows, musician - 70pts
38x Night goblins - hw/s, netters, 2x fanatics, musician, standard - 229pts (NG shaman & Goblin big boss)
28x Savage orc big unz - ahw, fc - 343pts (Great shaman & Black orc boss)

Special
20x Black orcs - shields, musician, sb, standard of discipline - 295pts
3x Trolls - 105pts
Wolf chariot -50pts

Rare
2x Doom diver catapults - 160pts
Rock lobber - 85pts
2x Mangler squigs - 130pts

Total - 2000pts

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Or alternatively,

Lords
Savage orc great shaman - lv.4, lucky shrunken head, ruby ring - 280pts

Heros
Black orc big boss - bsb, shield, dragon helm - 127pts
Night goblin shaman - lv.2, ds, ironcurse - 115pts

Core
20x Night goblins - bows, musician - 70pts
40x Night goblins - hw/s, netters, 2x fanatics, musician, standard - 235pts (NG shaman)
28x Savage orc big unz - ahw, fc - 343pts (Great shaman & Black orc boss)

Special
20x Black orcs - shields, musician, sb, standard of discipline - 295pts
3x Trolls - 105pts
4x Spear chukkas - 140pts

Rare
2x Doom diver catapults - 160pts
2x Mangler squigs - 130pts

Total - 2000pts

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