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How long before we make bombs out of it?

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One thing i have always wondered about anti-matter...

If electricity is from electrons, then could you have positricity from the positrons in anti-matter?

Interesting to know if the theory would work, and if it did then what difference it would have between a direct and an alternating current.

Although it would never be a viable option as a source of energy as it takes a LOT more energy to create an anti-matter particle than you could ever get from it, but it is still interesting if it is actually possible.


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How long before we make bombs out of it?
we wont be making weapons out of it, we cant afford the dudes to man the ships we cant afford to build



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The creation of anti-matter weaponry is far along the horizon, I'd suspect. Could we make some sort of prototype in a decade or two of concentrated efforts? I wouldn't doubt the possibility. The question is, could we realistically afford it?

No. Not with every other country slowly digging a deeper bankruptcy hole.
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I don't want weapons made out of it, I want it to be used to power Excelsior class starships.

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I don't want weapons made out of it, I want it to be used to power Excelsior class starships.
Exactly, why a weapon? Much better to make a super space ship drive.

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How long before we make bombs out of it?
About the same time fusion power becomes viable.


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Human nature often displays that, whenever we encounter something new, questions of weaponisation are not risen long after.

One obvious flaw with using anti-matter in a benificial way for society is that many factions who would suffer economically because of it will do whatever it takes to stonewall, frustrate or sabotage progress so they may continue to profit. Corporate warfare, one might say to get a shiny idea of what I'm talking about. Places where these groups have political influence will likely have little trouble in doing so.

The same thing threatens attempts at fusion power. I need only point to what happened to the electric car. If the world economy didn't have oil flowing through its veins, the roadways would be a lot less smoggier about now.

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I need only point to what happened to the electric car. If the world economy didn't have oil flowing through its veins, the roadways would be a lot less smoggier about now.
I don't know where you live, but here in America most fully electric cars are ineficient, and the ones that aren't are too expensive for most people.

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About the same time fusion power becomes viable.
Fusion is viable. At least, it's a viable technology and route. Perhaps a generation or two away at the long end of the scale (So long as no more oil companies continue with their smear campaigns to get research funding dropped)

Antimatter weaponry probably isn't going to happen, simple as.
Matter-Antimatter annihilation is hilariously inefficient for any kind of notable energy release. The amount you'd need to make such a bomb worthwhile (and the size of the bomb itself) is incredibly hard to fathom or put into words by technology that can even be thought about today.
If, somehow, there were a way to get enough, though, there's still the little issue of containment. It would need to be kept safe and sterile of any potential matter contact, and doing that would need a very powerful, very stable electromagnetic field with multiple failsafes built into it.

Long story short, it's taken us this long and this much technology to be able to hold antimatter for fractions of a second. This is very, VERY early days for experimental antimatter research.

Positive-yield Fusion, though? That's frustratingly close, all things considered.


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I don't know where you live, but here in America most fully electric cars are ineficient, and the ones that aren't are too expensive for most people.
I think that's Holm's point exactly. If the oil industry didn't stifle the research for so long, the technology would be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is now.

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