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As the thread states how does heresy think world peace can be achieved? Personally I think the world would have to be united under a single ruler not some stupid capitalist communist or socialist regime,but large centralized communitys where crimes would result in the death penalty.
Hey loyalist, I would pretty much wanna join forces with you on that one. Let's overthrow the dictator!

Seriously thought, you are asking the wrong question. Peace, death, cold, they have one thing in common : they don't exist. Much like cold is merely the lack of heat, death is the lack of life and peace is the lack of war.

When you talk about peace, you are simply specifically not talking about war. You are talking about anything in particular.

War, it's not practical to try and stop it. All war are bound to end on their own sometimes, it's the nature of war to come to an end. Either somebody will emerge victorious, either at one point, there'll be no one left to fight on both side at once.

If you want peace, don't start wars. Simple. It's the policy of Switzerland and it worked pretty well for them all those years. Better than for any single other country. Also, mature democracy don't wage wars on one-another, trade is more profitable to both. In the long run, trade will end wars. BUT we must be careful not to haste History. That's what the commies did, and if we don't take the lesson, then history will repeat itself.

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Sorry to hear about your friend. Might I suggest cracking open some history books to better learn about humanity and the conflicts that shaped us. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I'd be happy to answer questions about history, politics, etc.

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there are two ways:

1) "the pendergast model" named for US one-time benevolent crimelord Tom Pendergast. in this way, a single ruling entity becomes peerless. but has a vested interest in benefiting the people.

2) war changes- war still exists, but it is no longer war as we know it, no longer a war of death and destruction, but a war of information, lies, money, and greed.

my proposed Gov., the corperate dictatorship, focuses on achieving both- not only changing the face of warfare to economic rather than physical, but also seeking to agressively expand economically, while maintaining a vested interest in the people's welfare.

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As the thread states how does heresy think world peace can be achieved? Personally I think the world would have to be united under a single ruler not some stupid capitalist communist or socialist regime,but large centralized communitys where crimes would result in the death penalty.
not to double post, but... you realize why I highlighted what I highlighted, right?

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There is NO way to achieve a lasting peice but to destroy ourselves.... Seeing how that isn't the best idea, we can safely say that we should probably just get used to war or hope for a big ass impact.
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2) war changes- war still exists, but it is no longer war as we know it, no longer a war of death and destruction, but a war of information, lies, money, and greed.

my proposed Gov., the corperate dictatorship, focuses on achieving both- not only changing the face of warfare to economic rather than physical, but also seeking to agressively expand economically, while maintaining a vested interest in the people's welfare.
Emet if you think war isn't for economics, I wanna live in the world you're living in.

Currently war is shrinking, we're moving away from it in the traditional sense as more countries take on a more gobal view of the world. Currently the major conflicts in the world, 2 involving the US, are not against another country but an idealology which is why new types of tactics are being employed to combat the threat.

Get rid of religion and we're on a good start to gettng rid of war.

The corp dictatorship isn't the best means of a government, as they have to function for profit and can't maintain the type of social programs a larger country would require.

There is also an aother issue that many people did not forsee, which is how far corporate greed can extend. There is a book going around now, I can't remember the name but it was featured on an episode of the Colbert Report, that details how America isn't getting out of it's recession because we won't employ enough people to purchase all the goods we produce.

Now if you're asking how that has any relation to corp greed, the easiest way for a corp to control it's cost is cut payroll. The problem being that once the payroll is cut, it doesn't come back, and the money saved at years end is paid out in bonuses to the top level management, who's already making 7 figures. Lather, Rinse, Repeat year after year.

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#1 You will never be rid of religion.

#2 Even without religion, very little would change.
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Accepting differences is an easier road to world peace than homogenisation of culture or beliefs.

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Get rid of religion and we're on a good start to gettng rid of war.
I agree 100% with this comment. Unfortunately it's not enough but it's a hell of a start.

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#1 You will never be rid of religion.

#2 Even without religion, very little would change.
Sad, but true.


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You don't need to abolish religions (infact abolishing any idea is a bad idea... wait a minute) just tone them down a little so they aren't so violent.

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