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the jobs definately stable, its just a case that i dont have a degree to fall back on all i have is experience which yes is good but as you say nowadays its all about the damned piece of paper and being an engineer its a little risky.

the course is ocean yachting with vocational training fully integrated so not only coming out with a degree you also obtain your naval tickets required to work on yachts. (i was previoulsy in the merchant navy which is where i obtained most of my engineering experience)

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I don't think uni is all its cracked up to be. Are there any sea cadets or navy schemes where you could get similar experience? Just going to uni for the social side sounds fun but you'll be 6 years older than everyone else and not old enough to have mature students as friends. I'm thinking on your niche here. Currently you have friends that I'm assuming are your age and have money to drink/socialise with right? When at uni some people can't afford that. I know I can't. I'm at uni and its alright but all its teaching me to do is stay in academia, which I don't want. I wish I just did some practical intern-ship.

Is a degree worth it in the end? It may be but there are tonnes of people who went into uni so the job market will be saturated with degrees. Mind you. You'll have a degree and experience which will set you above the rest. Its your choice. If you don't like your job it may be good for you but you'll be 28ish hen you finish and will have missed out on that amount of experience. You could always move to where you can do evening courses if you don't fancy hairdressing.
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yea i do see your point its annoying as its a bit of the rock and a hard place situation. can move because to get another job in engineering i will need a degree, cant go back on my tools because i wasnt an apprentice my experience was all hands on but counts for nothing without a crappy bit of paper grrr.

i think the best course of action for me is to save up and find some week-long course or 2 week cources and do them over time i'm much the same as yourself i want practical work i love working but being here is making me very lazy and its pissing me off i want to work hard just need a step in the right direction. or at least a decent night school to offer something worth doing

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Just a thought, would it be possible to do the course part time? get the best of both worlds. May mean a cut in pay hours in your current jib, but you would still be employed while studying

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My time at uni was the best years of my life. When else will you be able to drink, party and see as many girls as you like in a relatively consequence-free environment. Getting a qualification is just an added bonus :-). I came out of uni and walked straight into a good job (without relying on nepotism), any degree which is not a Mickey Mouse (e.g. Sports Science) is valuable in the job market. If you hate your job and you can't go anywhere else then it's probably a good idea to go, if you can move careers easily to something you do want to do and money is an issue then maybe reconsider going.
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I guess first question is can you afford it. You are not only giving up a source of income, but paying out for uni as well for a number of years (I assume 4). Also consider if the uni course will get you a better paying, more enjoyable job.

Yes, a paper is great, but as a lot of people have said here, it doesn't mean you automatically get a great job once you are done. If your work experience now ties into what you will be taking in university than it works out pretty good, you finish with a degree and experience (that was my case I did coop placements throughout my years). If your work experience now doesn't fit into that, you might want to reconsider, because looking for a job after is pretty much starting from scratch.

I think the best bet is to find a course you can take at night, or online and keep working. With relevant work experience I don't think a full university degree is required.

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I would say that University is a GOOD option right now. A lot of people have said "I just finished university and now can't find a job", hell, I'M one of those people. The thing is, the UK is in the biggest recession for decades, and men between 16-24 have the worst job prospects they have ever had. Ducking into University now means that in 3-5 years time, hopefully the recession will have faded, allowing the graduates to enter the job market properly.

Hell, when I went to Uni in 05, the job market was excellent for graduates. Now it all goes to hell a few months before I graduated. Now it's the opposite situation, the only way the market can go from here is up.

If it's something you want to do, then do it. Regardless of financial implications you should always try to follow your dreams, else before you know it you'll be a 50 year old staring at the ever-approaching threat of retirement and wondering just what the fuck happened to your life.

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I say look into the Open University, it gives you the best of both worlds: You go to a uni and re-train/upskill/whatever but you don't immediately leave a well paid job.

And if you have a job with a good company they might be able/willing to part fund it (though they might want some form of commitment from you)

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Hi,

Do both like i do

I work full time during the day, and study a computing degree part time of an evening at Wolverhampton University. I'm now in my third year and on course for a first.

It's very simple:
Full time employment = money; part time uni = easy
Full time uni = skint; part time work = poor pay, boring, gets in the way of uni
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You could go on an Open University course. You'd be able to do whatever course you'd like to take in your own time and keep your current job. If you don't fancy going to an actual university building, you should consider the OU.

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