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This is an hypothetical question. Suppose we have the last crime on earth. It is horrible. More horrible than what you can ever imagine. Suppose we also have a 100% garantee with no chance of errors, that no other crime will ever be committed in billions of years no matter what we do. Should we punish this crime ?
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Yes. We punish as to make an example to others. We punish not so he does it again, but so that it sets an example to others. Because if we did not it would conflict with this equal utopian idea you speak of, in which everyone is treated as equal *Cough* Communism *Cough* although once the foundations of Capitalism slowly crumble into dust, Communism shall be the bases of the future in which resources must be equally shared, and we all contribute to our world, so that our society can still exist.
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What makes the last Crime any different from the first? A Crime is a Crime and thus it should be punished, whatever it is from a mere petty stealing to a murder. If you do not punish the said person you shall not stop it, so I deem it of the uttermost importance to carry it out. Thats my two cents anyhow

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What makes the last Crime any different from the first? A Crime is a Crime and thus it should be punished,
Why? Who says a crime has to be punished?


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If you do not punish the said person you shall not stop it, so I deem it of the uttermost importance to carry it out.
You seem to have misread the first post, no crime will ever happen again. So if we do not punish the person, he will not reoffend.

Why should we punish for no reason? With the cast-iron guarantee, there's no reason to punish other than to sate bloodlust and revenge.

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Because if we did not it would conflict with this equal utopian idea you speak of,
I don't know about you, but my Utopia doesn't have any punishment in it.

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No- if its the guarenteed last crime on Earth then the person who comitted it wont do it again and any punishment isnt going to disuade people from committing crime (because there wont be any more).
The person who comitted it should have the proceeds (any benefits they achieved through this crime) should be confiscated and then they should be kicked out into the street- spending time and effort on trial and incarseration would just be a waste.

Ofc this is complete fantasy since there can never be a guarentee of no more crime... so if its a horendous crime they should in reality probably get the death penalty.. pretty much for the same reasons: its it beond a doubt that this person did a truly unforgivable crime, sufficiently bad that they would never be released from prison then I dont see why society should pay for the cost of keeping a person in jail for a lifetime (which at a quick estimate could probably easily clear £2'000'000).

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I read somewhere that the appeals process and death row itself was actually more expensive than imprisoning someone for life.

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The person who comitted it should have the proceeds (any benefits they achieved through this crime) should be confiscated and then they should be kicked out into the street-
That sounds a lot like a punishment to me...

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It depends what the crime is. I'm persuaded to say yes if it's "more horrible than i can possibly imagine" because at that point i feel there will be victims who are severely affected by that persons actions.

If someone stole my TV and I knew there was no more crime then i wouldn't be too bothered.

If someone killed my family i'd feel pretty devastated if they were allowed to walk free.


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It might be the last crime. However, as said it is more horrible than you could ever imagine, now if it was a stealing or something along those lines perhaps it should be let slide, but something THAT horrible in my opinion should be dealt with bruntly, but as I have already said it is just my opinion, we do not all have to agree.

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That sounds a lot like a punishment to me...
Not really- Its saying that if you robbed a bank you wouldnt be allowed to keep the money, but you wouldnt be charged with it. If you steal someone's wallet and get caught giving back the wallet is something that is probably so obvious that no-one thinks about it.
Would be impossible in some cases: eg if you killed your wife... it would be a bit mean to go out and find someone you found as annoying and marry you to them (as well as patently unfair on the new wifey )

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