About the quote above,
I will clarify something :
Hypothesis 1: We put people in jail for detterence.
True, but not the only thing. Retribution is another key factor as explained earlier
Hypothesis 2: When the last crime is comitted, we don't punish it.
Conclusion : Everyone put in jail is innocent.
Though I agree to your first hypothesis, your demonstration is missing a key factor; punishment is a detterent for the offender too, more so as it directly applies to him/her. It is this factor throws the rest of it off course.
People are put in jail to promote a certain behavior in others though more so to the offender =» true by Hypothesis 1
People are in jail because of the future actions of others though more so the actions of the offender =» True by above but not Hypothesis 2 as there's more to punishment than detterence (i.e. retribution/revenge). All factors must be considered before deciding wheather hypothesis 2 is necessary.
People put in jail are not in jail because of there own actions =» Not true by above as the consequences are put in place as a direct result of the actions of the offender. It is that which makes the penalty apply, not the inaction of others.
People put in jail are innocent =» Not true by above as it is their actions which demand the need for a detterent. No criminal activity = nothing to detter
If you agree to second line of the quote, then you must agree to each of the following lest you'd contradict yourself.
Not quite, all factors must be considered before reaching that conclusion.
To say there is no reason for a detterent after such a crime is fine, I've already said that myself. To say that by agreeing to this and wanting punishment is a contradiction is only so if they were the only factors, which is not the case.
You have said that retribution isn't a valuable reaction. I disagree as, though it may be sick, it can alieve suffering felt by the victims of the offense. Also, weaker reactions aren't necessarily less valuable.
I strongly disagree that it is cowerdice to let the others (in this case the government) handle punishment; if everyone thought that way we'd take the law into our own hands, adding our bias to the punishments (fuelled by anger and vengence felt by being victimised) thus making everything harsher; something that, judging by your previous posts, you don't want. That's a contradiction.
As I've said before, suffering is a given, we just choose to put it on the guilty or the innocent.
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