Most people will be materially better of under communism, the point is about the few who won't be, who are the rich now. I still think that spiritually they'll be better off, as they won't have to spend so much time and effort worrying that the rest of us are going to rise up and guillotine them.
I agree with the first part, I'm just not drawing a connection on the second. I still don't see how spiritually you'll be better off simply because you have less material. I find it similar to Religious argument; "You're life will be richer if you believe in Jebus!" I'd be more than happy to leave it at that and not get on that tanget when it comes to this particular idea in this thread.
If you believe that law codes and power structures are there so 'we' can live in harmony because it's 'human nature' to be nasty, then you have more faith in our leaders and less faith in the rest of us than I do. Me, I think people are all right, on the whole, and politicians, they're human sewage, on the whole. People don't tend to get to be politicians through being nice or even efficient in my analysis, they get to be politicians by being lying cheating murderous scum. And you know the saying "in any soup, the scum always floats to the top".
Actually I have about as much faith in my leaders as I do the family that lives across the street from me; so I'm screwed. I can just see the good and bad in human nature and I hate to say the bad nearly always wins out. Especially when we start saying there's no law nor government to regulate basic interactions... I shudder to think what we'd become sooner than most would think.
I don't see the distinction you're drawing between communism and anarchism here. Neither Marxist communism nor anarchist communism recognise property as a principle. "The right to life is higher than the right to property" in a famous phrase. And another, coined by Proudhon (the first self-proclaimed anarchist) is "Property is Theft".
That's an issue I see with Communism on a principle level; I cannot defend my own property since I do not own it. What's to stop someone from taking my dogs in a Communist Society? They're my dogs, and I'll be damned if anyone is going to take them from me.
So you think American workers are to blame for September 11th? I don't. The people that flew the planes into the buildings deliberately murdered what I take to be innocent people.
No, I blame the guys that ran the planes into the buildings. The point was to draw a correlation in reasoning; how you blame the government for the actions (even if you feel their neccessary) of the revolutionaries while I place the blame solely on the revolutionaries in question. One can use the same reasoning to explain away actions of an individual by placing responsibility on an external force; a very old lawyer trick; "It's not his fault he raped that girl, he was molested as a kid!"
Likewise if the working class of the world says 'enough is enough' and the governments of the world call the armies out on them, it will be the fault of the governemtns and the soldiers who pull the trigger when people die.
Actually I'll blame them for ordering the executions and I'll blame the soldiers for following the inhumane order. Everyone gets their fair share! (This can lead to Military structures, war crimes and the like, probably a thread in it's own right)
If you think about the protests in Tiananmen Square that were crushed by the Chinese People's Army on June 4th 1989, who's fault were the deaths? According to your logic, it's the fault of the protestors. They caused the situation, the governemt and army were merely reacting to it.
No, the same way I won't blame the government for "causing" a revolution when they weren't the ones blowing up capital biuldings. I'm confused on how you keep misinterpreting my point; responsibility of an action rests on the one who performed the action. The protestors didn't kill themselves now did they?
Me, I blame the government and the army. I applaud the regiment that refused to fire on the protestors, and who had to be sent out of the capital before being replaced. But then again, I can't think of any government on earth I'd support in crushing its own (or any other) people.
Again, I want to avoid getting into military structures and regulations here. Way to many comments I could make.