Originally Posted by emporershand89
Really? I respect your studies of the Qur'an, and it's supplementals, but I must urge you to reconsider. Taking into perspective the "Noble" Qur'an, and what it says in it's pages of Holy Scripture. As below......
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Anyone not a follower of Islam, any Non-Beleivers(Fitnah)....dead! Kill until only Islam remains!
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
Basically seperates people into three groups. Hypocrites, "Diseased hearts," and Agitators (Alarmists). Basically you fall under these catagories if you are not a "True follower of allah." AKA....your Dead!
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
God says you are special if you kill in my name. So please go ahead and slaughter as many as you can find, for God is on your side! I mean it's directly from the Hadith, when Muhammad sought to make his people Raiders and kill merchant caravans.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"
Again, fight until all "Disbelief" is destroyed!
Again, it's been YEARS. I've not actually read the book since Religious Education classes way back when. However, I still remember a lot about the Quar'an's little section on the rules of war - some of which I can still recall, such as the fact that a Jihad can only be used defensively, nobody is allowed to kill people non-combatants, and (yes really) leaving cultivated and residential areas intact etc, etc. It's basically a proto-Geneva Convention.
That's not to say everyone follows these to the letter - on the contrary, groups such as Al-Quieda might actually be finding themselves ending up in the Muslim equivalent of Hell (and I hope it is so) for breaking the rules. These are the people who read the stuff you quoted above and misconclude that "It's perfectly okay to kill the guys NOT on our home soil and NOT trying to kill us!". So it wouldn't surprise me if the guys who committed 9/11 for example or the London Bombings in 2005 ended up with something more like this
Oh, and that little thing about the 40 Virgins for the Suicide Bombings? Well as it turns out, these are a violation of classic Islamic lore as well. Infact the first Suicide Bombing in this context was in 1980 if I recall correctly, meaning this aspect is fairly modern. In fact just for more context:
"The Prophet said, '...whoever commits suicide with a piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire,"
I would even go so far as to cite this which I came across while researching my post:
The 9/11 attack on the US has led many non-Muslims to indict Islam as a violent religion. According to Corrigan and Hudson, "some conservative Christian leaders (have) complained that Islam (is) incompatible with what they believed to be a Christian America." Examples of Christian leaders who have expressed such sentiments include Franklin Graham and Pat Robertson. According to a survey conducted by a research group affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, two out of three Protestant pastors believe Islam is a "dangerous" religion.
The basic principle in fighting in the Quran is that other communities should be treated as one's own. Fighting is justified for legitimate self-defense, to aid other Muslims and after a violation in the terms of a treaty, but should be stopped if these circumstances cease to exist. The principle of forgiveness is reiterated in between the assertions of the right to self-defence.
And for some extra added combo:
Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.
The last quote is from a guy named Abu Bakr, one of Mohammed's companions. That said (and as I've repeatedly stated), there is little to stop groups from breaking these laws as much as you can get some random Warlord to follow the Geneva Convention for example. It doesn't help that (as I found out looking though this) a fair few verses are ambiguous.
Beginning with the 7th-century AD Arab era of Muslim conquests, and continuing on until the 21st-century resurgence of Muslim violence on non-Muslims in the name of "Jihad",many have debated whether Islam was fundamentally a religion of peace, of violence, or perhaps of some combination of the two. Within the Quran itself, there appears to be some ambiguity regarding the infliction of injury upon non-combatants. In the Quran's "No-Compulsion verse" it is suggested that "there shall be no compulsion in religion". However, this verse was abrogated, as later in the Quran's "Sword verses", Muslims were advised to "...Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the last day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and his messenger (Muhammad) have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth (Islam)." Hence, the misinterpretation of the topic is famous among all parties.