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Same thing happened to me my local store closed down 3 years ago and it was 100km drive one way to get to play. So i ordered stuff online and then last October a new store opened up 10 minutes away that is great. So you never know what the future holds.


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The problem with the gaming industry is that the overwhelming majority of FLGS are not operated by businesspeople. They're mostly gamers who think "hey, I'm going to play games all day and get stuff at cost and yay!" and they end up bankrupting the business by focusing on the wrong things (like focusing on gamers over the general public, and spending most of their inventory budget on low margin items that they happen to enjoy personally.) Most distributors won't even give you credit terms until you've been in business for at least five years for that reason-- they know that 85% of new game stores fail. Distributors have been excited talking to me since it's so rare that they encounter someone in the industry who actually does have a business background (I minored in accounting) and approaches the business as a business...

So, why all that, you ask? Well, you can order Games Workshop from me (over the phone, or by sending me a PM on here, of course)-- for a healthy 20% discount off MSRP. I insure all packages at this point... I've had enough snafus with uninsured packages at the post office that I just bite the bullet on that one so the package can be tracked. If your FLGS closes... have no fear, Horus is here!

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The problem with the gaming industry is that the overwhelming majority of FLGS are not operated by businesspeople. They're mostly gamers who think "hey, I'm going to play games all day and get stuff at cost and yay!" and they end up bankrupting the business by focusing on the wrong things (like focusing on gamers over the general public, and spending most of their inventory budget on low margin items that they happen to enjoy personally.) Most distributors won't even give you credit terms until you've been in business for at least five years for that reason-- they know that 85% of new game stores fail. Distributors have been excited talking to me since it's so rare that they encounter someone in the industry who actually does have a business background (I minored in accounting) and approaches the business as a business...

So, why all that, you ask? Well, you can order Games Workshop from me (over the phone, or by sending me a PM on here, of course)-- for a healthy 20% discount off MSRP. I insure all packages at this point... I've had enough snafus with uninsured packages at the post office that I just bite the bullet on that one so the package can be tracked. If your FLGS closes... have no fear, Horus is here!
Didn't know that you sold stuff... Awesome.
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Didn't know that you sold stuff... Awesome.
Yes! I too own a game store. It's called The Game Warehouse, opening... shortly (we're currently running some electric.) But I currently have my assorted accounts in order, and I have my GW inventory. I theoretically can sell stuff even though the storefront isn't open yet.

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The problem with the gaming industry is that the overwhelming majority of FLGS are not operated by businesspeople. They're mostly gamers who think "hey, I'm going to play games all day and get stuff at cost and yay!" and they end up bankrupting the business by focusing on the wrong things (like focusing on gamers over the general public, and spending most of their inventory budget on low margin items that they happen to enjoy personally.) Most distributors won't even give you credit terms until you've been in business for at least five years for that reason-- they know that 85% of new game stores fail. Distributors have been excited talking to me since it's so rare that they encounter someone in the industry who actually does have a business background (I minored in accounting) and approaches the business as a business...

So, why all that, you ask? Well, you can order Games Workshop from me (over the phone, or by sending me a PM on here, of course)-- for a healthy 20% discount off MSRP. I insure all packages at this point... I've had enough snafus with uninsured packages at the post office that I just bite the bullet on that one so the package can be tracked. If your FLGS closes... have no fear, Horus is here!
Unfortunately ordering from the US will probably be more than that 20% off
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Unfortunately ordering from the US will probably be more than that 20% off
If you don't care when you get it, shipping CAN be inexpensive... I stuck something on a shipping crate from the US to the UK for something like $8.50. Took something absurd like a month and some change to get there, but as international shipping goes, it was almost free.

But yes. International shipping sucks. And US-AUS shipping particularly is bad.

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If you don't care when you get it, shipping CAN be inexpensive... I stuck something on a shipping crate from the US to the UK for something like $8.50. Took something absurd like a month and some change to get there, but as international shipping goes, it was almost free.

But yes. International shipping sucks. And US-AUS shipping particularly is bad.
Hmm...interesting. At some point I might just have to get drunk, buy something from you, wake up forgetting about and then receive my own present in the future
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Hmm...interesting. At some point I might just have to get drunk, buy something from you, wake up forgetting about and then receive my own present in the future
Second me on that.
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In the last couple of years, shipping outside of your own nation took a significant jump in price, I believe there was some kind of conversation between mail companies world wide and pretty much all of them bumped there prices up at the same time. I know in the Uk that International air mail and EU air mail both took significant leaps in price two years running as well as UK internal mail also having VAT slapped on it prior the royal mail getting privatised.

So are you not bound by the same GW trade embargo as the EU sellers ?can you sell around the world from the USA? i know they have different rules on shopping carts and Bitz in the US, i would love to see your trade terms and compare them to the EU ones.



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In the last couple of years, shipping outside of your own nation took a significant jump in price, I believe there was some kind of conversation between mail companies world wide and pretty much all of them bumped there prices up at the same time. I know in the Uk that International air mail and EU air mail both took significant leaps in price two years running as well as UK internal mail also having VAT slapped on it prior the royal mail getting privatised.

So are you not bound by the same GW trade embargo as the EU sellers ?can you sell around the world from the USA? i know they have different rules on shopping carts and Bitz in the US, i would love to see your trade terms and compare them to the EU ones.
No clue. As far as I know, I don't have any restrictions on where I ship things. It's possible that I have the same restrictions, though-- I'd just have to look at the paperwork. I have so many contracts right now that they've all sort of run together. But my trade terms are overall pretty standardized. I do know I'm not allowed to have any sort of online sales-- no ebay store, no company webstore where you can add the items to the shopping cart, anything like that. But there's nothing in there, to my understanding, that stops me from saying "hey, give me a call, we'll work something out." Of course, if I get a call from my rep saying "hey, Horus, knock it off" then of course, that'll be that. There're even odds they're reading this post, and they know who I am on here. I know I'm also not allowed to part out kits at all-- I can't open Dark Vengeance, for example, and sell just the book as a single item, or just the Dark Angels or Chaos Space Marines out of it. I also can't sell bits, individual components, etc; nor can I sell anything that I purchase that's a web exclusive or vendor promotional item (so the recent promo Captains-- I could have gotten them for myself through my store's account, but I couldn't then put them on the shelf.)

I will say this for the EU, though-- it doesn't matter what business you're in, the socialists running the EU are out to fuck you if you're in business outside the nations whose economies are in the bucket. Between import taxes, VATs, and general incompetence, it's really not worth messing with doing business in the EU right now, even if I'm allowed to. When I was doing commission work, I was very hesitant to do anything in the EU-- I didn't think it was possible for a mail system to be worse than the USPS, but then the Italians went, "No no, we make-a-the US mail look-a-like-a smooth-a-oiled machine!" And the US Post fucked up often enough I had to close shop to anyone I couldn't hand-deliver stuff to since they would lose packages, and then tell me regardless of tracking or insurance or anything that it basically wasn't their problem. I've always had good experiences with Royal Air Mail though.

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