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Shhhhhhhh Jehovas. Doing the good work of making all Christians look like bible loving nut cakes!!
Making the rest of you look rather sane and balanced actually.

I'm sure you know the origins of the New Testament, correct? http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...ianazar_40.htm

And the Old Testament, or rather its original incarnation in the Torah was supposedly dictated to Moses by God on Mount Sinai. Naturaly this seems far fetched, and of course cannot be traced. Due to subtle differences in the structure and method of its writings, most scholars now agree that the Torah (and therefore the Old Testament) was in fact written by multiple authors across a span of several centuries or more.

When a holy text's origins cannot be proven and physical evidence contradicts them, it stands to reason that these beliefs are little more than another ancient mythology that human ignorance allowed to survive to more modern times.


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When a holy text's origins cannot be proven and physical evidence contradicts them, it stands to reason that these beliefs are little more than another ancient mythology that human ignorance allowed to survive to more modern times.
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I guess the steaming piles of physical evidence for something still mean nothing in the face of willful ignorance.
And I'll ask again.

How is losing built in insulation, a good trade off for getting a big brain?

In order for humans to survive we need to live in a wooden bawks wear the furs of animals and have fire.

Everything I am seeing indicates that humans should be a evolutionary dead end.
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And I'll ask again.

How is losing built in insulation, a good trade off for getting a big brain?

In order for humans to survive we need to live in a wooden bawks wear the furs of animals and have fire.

Everything I am seeing indicates that humans should be a evolutionary dead end.
You seem to be under the illusion that Evolution can only move "forward."

This is incorrect. Evolution moves any direction chance takes it. The successful mutations survive, the ill suited ones do not.

And yes, humans are an evolutionary dead end. Scientists have acknowledged this, mainly because the harsh living conditions and isolation of old human cultures have been removed by modern living. Humans today have no real need to evolve any further because technology makes up for most if not all shortcomings most people will encounter.

And how does human evolution being a dead end in any way discredit the idea (and evidence) that it happened?


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This is incorrect. Evolution moves any direction chance takes it. The successful mutations survive, the ill suited ones do not.
Brings to mind my Youth Groups mystery trip during spring break this year. One of the younger kids (probably 9 or 10 I think) scoffed at the idea of evolution during one of the morning bible talks (I'm agnostic, before anyone asks.). Well one of the youth leaders (a creationist) shot that down and told him that evolution does indeed exist and cited the cave crickets we saw while caving just days before outside of carlsbad. The cave crickets and the cave spiders lost their sight due to being in pitch black conditions, but they have evolved ways to compensate for this and thus are able to live in complete darkness perfectly fine.

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You seem to be under the illusion that Evolution can only move "forward."

This is incorrect. Evolution moves any direction chance takes it. The successful mutations survive, the ill suited ones do not.

And yes, humans are an evolutionary dead end. Scientists have acknowledged this, mainly because the harsh living conditions and isolation of old human cultures have been removed by modern living. Humans today have no real need to evolve any further because technology makes up for most if not all shortcomings most people will encounter.

And how does human evolution being a dead end in any way discredit the idea (and evidence) that it happened?
So for humanity to move forward what is required?
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this is why I brought up my initial thought.

WE as humans will eventually put a computer into our brains, our race seems to be at an evolutionary dead end, this is what scientists believe. But I can say that Evolution is Adapting to ones environment, Sadly, due to our races inability to progress easily, the culture has started to regress, and we like might go backwards a step before taking a different evolutionary route, or we might end up createing bio technology to "unnaturally" evolve, too. Though its under debate on weather intellectual and conscious will to forcefully evolve our species any further is morrally sound or not, ill leave that up to you guys to debate in your heads.
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this is why I brought up my initial thought.

WE as humans will eventually put a computer into our brains, our race seems to be at an evolutionary dead end, this is what scientists believe. But I can say that Evolution is Adapting to ones environment, Sadly, due to our races inability to progress easily, the culture has started to regress, and we like might go backwards a step before taking a different evolutionary route, or we might end up createing bio technology to "unnaturally" evolve, too. Though its under debate on weather intellectual and conscious will to forcefully evolve our species any further is morrally sound or not, ill leave that up to you guys to debate in your heads.
If it leads to catastrophe, then it wouldn't be so morally sound. Otherwise i'd be all for it. Always interesting to see where things will go, and what type of technological advancements may come about from it. Will the advancements be helpful or hurtful? Time will tell I suppose

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this is why I brought up my initial thought.

WE as humans will eventually put a computer into our brains, our race seems to be at an evolutionary dead end, this is what scientists believe. But I can say that Evolution is Adapting to ones environment, Sadly, due to our races inability to progress easily, the culture has started to regress, and we like might go backwards a step before taking a different evolutionary route, or we might end up createing bio technology to "unnaturally" evolve, too. Though its under debate on weather intellectual and conscious will to forcefully evolve our species any further is morrally sound or not, ill leave that up to you guys to debate in your heads.
Clearly you haven't watched the matrix. I for one would violently oppose any sort of central collective like that.
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So for humanity to move forward what is required?
You mean biologically? Nothing at all. Short of a few diseases and conditions that stem cell research will eventually fix, there is nothing that really needs to change with human biology.

As a society? Well stamping out religion based ignorance so the above could move forward unopposed would be a good start.


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