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Stuart Hall got off this is called Justice.......for fucks sake

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Its because he has to be punished in terms of the time he committed the offence.

At the time he committed the crime this was the sentence, it was what was deemed appropriate. Although to us, and anyone else with any sense, it seems like a joke its the way the law works.

Its sort of a safety net in a way, say you get caught speeding, at the moment its a fine and points on your licence, at some point in the future they could make the penalty far more extreme, a life sentence maybe. If you get caught the day before the law changes you get prosecuted under the law at the time you committed the offence not under the law by the time you get to court.

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Its because he has to be punished in terms of the time he committed the offence.
While this is true, they did note in the article that the minimum sentence, even back then, for most of those charges was two years. At 83, even if he had been given two years per charge that would have been nearly thirty years, meaning he would more than likely have died in prison before finishing his punishment.

I also do kinda agree with what he and his people were saying, while what he did is bad its not nearly as bad as that Saville guy, who had one hundred times as many charges/complaints.

In the end he got away with it for all this time, and while he may deserve punishment, keeping him locked away for a longer time simply decreases space for other individuals who deserve it more.

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At 83, even if he had been given two years per charge that would have been nearly thirty years, meaning he would more than likely have died in prison before finishing his punishment.
This is where Uk law differs from US, over here you only get the one sentence, so if you get caught stealing 300 different things you only get one sentence for theft. Rather than the way the US do it and people end up getting 7000 year sentences.

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Sounds like they need to change the sentencing laws I think because this to me is so wrong. Don't think those he did it too will Agree either
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So I could come to the UK, murder 200 people, and get only one murder charge?

Seems fair.

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I also do kinda agree with what he and his people were saying, while what he did is bad its not nearly as bad as that Saville guy, who had one hundred times as many charges/complaints.
That doesn't make what he did any less disgusting. Oh you only abused 13 people? Well thats ok then. When did we start saying that sexual abuse only really matters when your victim numbers end up in the triple figures or higher?

The "frightened and bewildered old man" should be taken out the back and shot in the groin shortly followed by that scum bag lawyer of his. I'm scared to hear what the defence in the civil courts will be.

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So I could come to the UK, murder 200 people, and get only one murder charge?

Seems fair.
No, you would be tried for 200 counts of murder, if you were found guilty of all counts you wouldnt be released.



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No, you would be tried for 200 counts of murder, if you were found guilty of all counts you wouldnt be released.
This.

Giving someone one life sentence may seem odd but giving someone 200 life sentences is retarded.

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There is a country and I cannot recall it but it has a relatively low crime rate and is said to be because of the sentencing.

Instead of having a minimum and maximum or a plea bargain system there is only a set number of years or months for a crime. Where for example someone in the US could rob a store lets say Robbery 1 and get 1 to 5 years they might get 1 year of probation. And in the country I am not able to recall if convicted of the crime of Robbery 1 (in this example) which carries a 5 year sentence they would serve the entire five years, no pleas and no time off for good behavior.

Think it was Sweden, Denmark some where around there.

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