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Looking at the Death Penalty thread a question struck me, when is violence acceptable?
Obviously violence is a last resort and in most cases completely unacceptable but what would drive you to violence?
Personally I will admit that i have a high tendancy to be violent, but my opinion is that I do give fair warning and at 6'4" and 18+ stone if those warnings are ignored then you get whats coming.
I also do whatever I can to avoid violence within reason and would never attack someone unprovoked.
I just wondered what other peoples limits were, is self defence enough?
defence of a family member, defence of property etc.

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im not openly violent, but deep down i have little restriction when it comes to violence. my no.1 rule is always strike second - that way you can say it was self defence and not get charged with anything. thats about it really. i dont fight fair, it just dont work for me. ill do anything to get the advantage (except swing first).
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"To protect myself and others from immediate harm" is my basic thoughts on this.

Are we just talking physical violence here or including "mental" violence?

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Any form of violence, mental, physical or emotional. What would drive you to it and how, if at all, would you justify it?

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Most simply, violence isn't acceptable.

We all do it. we shouldn't accept it. we should strive not to. That's what makes us better people.

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Gotta war across the Milky Way - "
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Sorry orc, I appologize for putting it that way, I didn't explain myself clearly.
Violence is never acceptable but as you said we are all capable of it I just wondered what would drive people to it

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Really, Norm; no need for an apology - I thought what you were getting at was, 'what would drive you to violence'.

I chose to interpret it more broadly, just to make to the point to anyone out there that thinks in general that violence is an acceptable solution. But I'm aware that my interpretation wasn't how you intended the post. Didn't mean to imply that I thought you were actually advocating violence.

So it seems I wasn't very clear either - my apologies to you Norm!

This is one reason I'm not in favour of violence - misunderstood words are easier to clear up than even the best-interpreted punch in the face.

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generaly i tend to avoid violence, as being charged with assault is something that i'd like to avoid. that said if someone is a threat to my safety or the safety of someone i care about i'll do what is necassary to nuetralize the threat(hopefully without having to reasort to physical methods) of course if someone makes it obvious that there is no way a confrentation is ending without violence i prefer to end it as quickly as i can, i always fight dirty and use whatever advantage i can get. never been in a 'fair fight' so it'd be stupid to fight fair.

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The thing about use of violence it that it does not require your acceptance.

Also consider "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." I personally read the more general "Authority" instead of "Political Power".

Maybe this is better in it's own thread.

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Well, we wouldn't need self defense if everyone was non-violent.


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