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As a tangent to the original question, what sort of "earth shattering" events would actually provide definitive proof one way or the other?

Or probably the better question is what sort of earth shattering event would move your (generic poster's) own personal needle one way or the other?

Every scenario I can think of, could easily be countered by one side or the other as not being sufficient proof.

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Hypothetically, something happens, something earth shattering that proves there is a God. This thing is beyond doubt, there is no way to argue, no wiggle room and no way anyone other than a complete idiot could claim anything but the obvious.
Continue to live my life exactly as I do now. It's one thing to prove any god (or indeed, anything supernatural, ever) exists, it's another entirely to accept anything that god has to say or 'commands'.

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[...]Only the most ardent believers who have true "Faith" fall into the binary categories and live, breath, and evangelize their beliefs.
Double post to correct this. Agnosticism is an adjective when it comes to matters like this. It works like this-

Gnosticism/Agnosticism describes what you claim to know.
Theism/Atheism describes what you believe.

For example, a theist who knows a god exists is a "gnostic theist", and an atheist who knows a god doesn't is called a "gnostic atheist".

Agnostic atheists tend to be more common and are generally referred to as "soft atheists", people who can't assert a god does or does not exist, but live their lives as though one (or more) do not.

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Same thing I do whenever a new edition of the game comes out.
Buy the current rulebook, study it cover to cover looking for loopholes, exploits and flaws, attempt to get them included in some kind of FAQ update...then never do anything else with it because I'm too busy with other things.
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I'd be very much surprised.

Then I'd go to all the atheists I know and say, "well shit, you were right."

Then go to a heavy metal concert to make myself deaf so I wouldn't have to listen to all the "I told you so" speeches.

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I'd be very much surprised.

Then I'd go to all the atheists I know and say, "well shit, you were right."

Then go to a heavy metal concert to make myself deaf so I wouldn't have to listen to all the "I told you so" speeches.
A bad heavy metal concert - only the bad ones make you deaf. The good ones make you almost deaf so that you can continue listening to their awesome stuff.
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A bad heavy metal concert - only the bad ones make you deaf. The good ones make you almost deaf so that you can continue listening to their awesome stuff.

Well I'd be damned sure to keep my earbuds in and my volume at max for the following weeks

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If God didn't exist, my life wouldn't change that much, if at all.

If he did exist, I'd probably try and find out more about him/er/it, just because I'm naturally curious.

Sometimes i wonder 'Why is that frisbee getting bigger?', and then it hits me.

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I'm going to bet it would have zero influence on my life. Just because we suddenly could prove how some unproductive divinity who, until now, have done fuck all to let people know about it's existence is a certainty doesn't really make me want to evaluate squat.

Unless this "God" has a change of attitude, suddenly start to give a shit, turns up at my dinner parties shooting two-headed monkeys on unicycles out of his arse to entertain my guests and grant me the 11 inch wang I always wanted, God neither deserves nor catches my interest.


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It entirely depends what kind of god that guy would be. If an omnipotent, omnipresent an omniscient being, I would ask him whether he can create a rock, that he cannot lift and other known paradoxes that rise from these three features.
If he were a kind of deistic god, who just happened to create universe and does not care about it anymore, I would just move along.
If he were the kind of sadistic old testament monster I wold pray that superman exists too and that he can somehow stop him. :D
If he were the gentle new testament God I would try to discuss with him, ask him whether hell is real or not and try to convince him to help people who need him.
I could go on, but I think I made my point.... in short saying that God exists is a completely vacuous statement as long as you are not more precise on which God you are talking about.

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...some unproductive divinity who, until now, have done fuck all to let people know about it's existence....
This is the core dispute between atheism and religion; members of any religion have seen their God(s) produce results and offer evidence of existence.

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Unless this "God" has a change of attitude, suddenly start to give a shit, turns up at my dinner parties shooting two-headed monkeys on unicycles out of his arse to entertain my guests and grant me the 11 inch wang I always wanted, God neither deserves nor catches my interest.
From what I know of Abrahamic religions their God(s) are not very big on quid pro quo.

If you are looking for tangible this-world results I suggest investigating paganisms. Although some have a hierarchical worship structure, many of them barter with God(s) for animal servitors, sexual prowess, and other gifts.
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