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Default Ben Carson's Speech - What did you think?

I'm sure every American has heard it by now, or at least heard the talking heads vociferating about it by now. At the national prayer conference a few days ago, Ben Carson, renowned neurologist and neurosurgeon, made his conservative views known with Obama sitting in the front row.

So what do you guys think? Was he right (get it, right vs wrong, right wing/left wing)? Will he run for office soon? Did you agree or disagree with his statements?

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I think he should have stuck to the house rules and not talked about politics and he should appologise to potus



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Was he right (get it, right vs wrong, right wing/left wing)?
I'm gonna go ahead and say no, I don't get it. Are you saying that everything said/done by the left wing is wrong and everything said/done by the right wing is always right?

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Sounded like typical conservative views. There really wasn't anything new or groundbreaking in that speech.

Do I agree with him on everything? No, but I don't disagree on everything either.

I gotta agree with DarkReever. What are you looking for here DivineEdge?
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I'm not looking for people to say "Yes! Run for president in 2016" or "No, you doofus! Stick with medicine!"

I just know it was an arousing (not using that term sexually) speech for a lot of people and wanted to see their thoughts on it. No, I know he didn't come out and express totally whacked or totally new views, but he probably didn't say what people were expecting and it was thought provoking.


And the left/right-right/wrong thing is a joke. Maybe I need to work on it a little bit.

I was just wondering what other people's opinions on it were.

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I just know it was an arousing (not using that term sexually) ....
In polite company: a speech is rousing; a redhead is arousing.
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If divine gets arroused watching doctors give speeches who are we to judge? Well i say we,im the new pope so i can judge him as i am the vicar of god,but you lot should respect his fetish



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OK I’ll bite.

One of the first things he comments on is how easily people are offended, “how the PC police are everywhere”, and I agree they are everywhere, there is only one other group that in America that gets offended over the smallest of things more often and that’s Christian Conservatives.

I completely agree on the dumbing down of education and the dangers of it. I would question however where the most factually flawed textbooks are to be found? In which schools? In which schools is the science of evolution being removed from syllabuses? Creationism is not science. Its theology. There is a class for that, its called theology. Keep science in science and religion in religious studies. Don’t cross them over (although personally I’ve never heard of evolution being forcibly added into a religious class, can’t say the same about the other way round).

I also agree on the subject of lawyers in Politics.

Moral decay… blah blah fucking blah. Morals change over time. They always have and always will. I fundamentally disagree with this bullshit idea that good morals steam from the Bible. Lies, the Bible advocates slavery and murder as much as it does love, selflessness and compassion. It turns otherwise rational individuals into the most ir-rational of beings.

Agreed about the need to reduce debt. You know what would really help cutting national debt of any nation? Raising taxes on the people who can afford it, treating business as something other than individuals and stopping this idea of “Public Risk, Private Gain”, as well as cutting spending.

Tithing? The perfect system? What are you? Retarded? (I nearly stopped listening at this point). “There must be something inherently fair about proportionality” because this supposed God is the fairest being in existence? Wrong, that idea only works if the cost of goods for the rich man is proportionally the same as for a poor man. If I earn 1000 dollars a month and a loaf of bread costs 5 dollars that’s going to have a great effect on my lifestyle than it is for somebody who earns 10,000 dollars a month. However if that loaf of bread costs 50 dollars for the rich man then we are on the same playing field. Can’t have it only one way sorry.

Agreed on simplifying the tax system however you want to know one of the reasons the tax system is so complex in most nations? Because rich lobby groups are constantly pressuring politicians to adding more clauses to the tax system so they can keep avoiding paying tax. You stop allowing special interest group to fund political campaigns (otherwise known as bribes) and things might start changing. And that’s right and left wing here.

I’m no expert on the American Healthcare system so I can’t comment on that but I do struggle to see how most other western countries have got theirs sorted years ago and the US is still dragging the chain though.

Overall I thought it was a piss poor speech frankly. Full of soppy and pointless stories that were simply there to get a bit of “ ’merica! Fuck Yea!” going and not offering any real solutions.
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Full of soppy and pointless stories that were simply there to get a bit of “ ’merica! Fuck Yea!” going and not offering any real solutions.
Yeah but thats the gist of most American politicians isn't it? Be they left, right, center, or in another building entirely.

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Very good point Dark, now I love a good circle jerk as much as the next person however that lot spend their time constantly on the little blue pills with a case on severe case of OCD about their genitals.
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